Charlie Kirk confirmed dead.

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    These guys think they can talk all day about how they are going to make other’s lives worse, often those with lesser means, and they think they should enjoy safety themselves at all times. This while caring so little for others who are victims of gun violence, offering up weak thoughts and prayers and no action. Well, today he got to live the life he always wanted, he just wanted it for others.

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      Look at some of the bastards talking about him. I’m sure inside they’re fucking scared, trying to guess how much they’ll have to spend for security and start having coffee with Erik Prince or some thuggery.

      https://archive.is/3N4JR

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    Bruh… We are in for an explosion of political violence… Only difference between now and the past is white wealthy men are the targets. Watching them freak out when they are gunned down on a random Wednesday is laughable. Welcome to your average black Americans reality. Police killings are political violence but no one with actual power ever gave a shit.

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      Just like “Elections are the pressure release of an unhappy populace” trust in rule of law helps prevent people from taking things into their own hands.

      Police protection of right wing shotters, ignoring due process, the supreme court saying it’s ok to break the law if you are Trump. People have lost faith in the instutions of law and are taking things into their own hands.

      This is the result of the Republicans dismantling the norms of government and rule of law.

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      No, we are the targets now. This was the perfect excuse to increase militarization against the citizenry and distract from the Epstein Files. Whoever did this is a short-sighted idiot.

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          Always remember yall, they hate us for existing, we hate them for the harm they cause to others. We are not the same.

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          Now they’ll accelerate the pace since the public will be less critical of such action, and 5 raging Nazis will take his place on social media. Unlike violent MAGA cultists, you won’t be recruiting very many progressives who would consider right-wingers with social media accounts to be worthy of a death sentence.

          Nothing good has been accomplished here.

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            Nothing good has been accomplished here.

            Kirk’s assassination will put a chill on professional haters being bold enough to spew their hate in public venues.

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        Ps willing to bet it was the neo Nazies he was arguing with on Twitter with the week before. He he was figuratively telling them that their obvert racism was bad for business and the conservative agenda. And they said he’s a jew simp and threatened him.

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          Why blame Nazis? You are clearly demonstrating that there are plenty of leftists willing to murder people they disagree with on the Internet

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            How about you take those pearls you are clutching so tightly, and go tell every millionaire, executive, board members, police/ice agent, and nazi this warning. Because apparently you nor them have ever picked up a history book. This only ends one way unless they fuck off to their private sex islands leaving all their wealth. That or them and/or their offspring’s remains will be strung up in the streets as a cautionary tail. I’m not threatening anyone. It’s no different that 2+2=4. Authoritarianism plus inequality equals a lot of dead people.

            • fluxion@lemmy.world
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              Violent revolution requires hearts and minds, it requires a people so oppressed and wronged that a popular uprising is possible. Unfortunately that means you have to suffer to some degree before that becomes a viable path to retaking power. You can’t skip past it, because then you are standing by yourself looking like nothing more than one of the theoretical leftist terrorists radicals they keep talking about, which i always found ridiculous until i saw the reactions here.

              This isn’t some Luigi moment, he wasn’t sitting around deciding who lives and dies, he was just a right-winger with a social media presence, and i happen to follow a lot of left-wingers with a social media presence who I’d prefer to not see targeted for murder by a bunch of crazies just because they don’t like what they hear.

              Revolution is going to require you to step out of your bubble and understand that most Americans, including progressives like me who didn’t even vote for Clinton because they were not progressive enough, will find your reaction appalling and will never endorse this sort of depravity. Do something more productive with those emotions, understand that good things do not come quickly or easily, and that this has not achieved a single good thing.

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                Uhhhhhhh popular up rising. Have you just been online? Have you just been watching “main stream” news? Has your life been that comfortable?

                For the last time no one is dumb to what you are trying to say. Say I’m in a bubble? Bruh… Go spend your energy somewhere else on individuals that actually need to hear your words. Because we know. There’s more than enough popular connections going on. You just aren’t connected to your community. My community is gearing up for tougher times than we are currently dealing with. So go on. Keep acting like your bubble is a litmus test for whats going on. You are obviously overlooking tons of organizing and ground work going on in communities different than your own.

                Go spend your flowery words on those that actually need it. Because many demographics and communities are organized and are ready for what comes next.

                • fluxion@lemmy.world
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                  Take a break from the internet and go discuss with your community about your proposal of shooting people in the neck when they say shit you don’t like and have a big enough view count and see how much help they think you are to their problems.

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            Holy shit! You still there!? It’s was neo Nazies 😂🤣😂🤣 I totally called it. Dragging my nuts across your propaganda is making my day.

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              If you were so sure it was Nazi you shouldn’t have lead with “Only difference between now and the past is white wealthy men are the targets. Watching them freak out when they are gunned down on a random Wednesday is laughable.” and then spent the whole arguing why this murder is justified.

              That’s was my point: that thinking is how Nazis acts, not progressives, and that by applauding this you are making it easier for people to claim the left are the violent ones and playing right into their propaganda.

              The fact that you are relieved it was potentially Nazis tells me that deep down inside you know this was bad for business, so thank you for spending another toilet break to follow up on this.

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                Lol yes I stand by every word. Want to know my next prediction? They killed him because the wanted to start a race war. In a just world Kirk would have never have been platformed and given millions to lie about other races, ethnicities, gender, and religion. In a just world Kirk would have been thrown in jail for inciting violence. His death was injustice. But because of his actions and others just like him and yourself his outcome was inevitable. It is celebrated, yes. Ridiculed, yes. Hell, how murder was so predictable Kirk was wearing a bullet proof vest. He should have taken all the hints and examples from his past and put more love and acceptance of into the world. Then maybe he would have never would have caught the eye of those willing to do violence… Remember 2+2=4? And look at all the people just like him and yourself. Backflips to save face? Or Idk what is going through yalls head. Actions have consequences. His actions equaled his death. Because once you throw your lot in with everything modern day conservatives, capitalist, neo-liberals, and bigots beliefs you only have yourself to blame when those same ideals are focused on yourself for even a second is just a fraction of the pain he put out into the world. If it didn’t happen to him last Wednesday or within his lifetime, it was going to happen to anyone who picked up his fight. 2+2=4. Keep acting like the equation is the problem and we’ll never advance as a species.

                And yes. Squeezed a few out while typing this. Because you and people like you are the problem. And I truly hope you wake up and influence those who actually are going to end up just like Kirk. It’s going to happen. If not tomorrow, definitely/predictably/ inevitably this is the outcome. You need to change if you want to save yourself or those that want to follow you.

                My final question and comment to you is, will you? I did. The black and brown communities did. Women did. Poor communities did. Hell even children have. Why not you?

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            Oh look it wasn’t the left. Lol you going to go to conservative spaces and talk your nonsense?

            Kirk was killed by his own side if your didn’t catch the news 😂

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        This was the perfect excuse to increase militarization against the citizenry and distract from the Epstein Files. Whoever did this is a short-sighted idiot.

        For all we know, Kirk was a sacrificial lamb, and this is all part of the plan.

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    Bravo. Practice what you preach. It’s about time these people started putting money where their mouth is, eh.

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      I am unironically concerned about the motives of his assassin. Every time we see something like this, I get this sinking feeling like we’ve just seen the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand.

      But then, we keep discovering that they’re right-wing nutjobs, and so the people who are praying for a civil war have to gnash their teeth and pretend like they’re not just looking for any reason to go on a killing spree.

      Nothing would please me more than if it was some personal reason, like a jilted gay lover.

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        They’ve already decided what they want to do. The military has invaded our nations capitol and our second largest city, Trump is threatening Chicago too, and we’re giving a quarter of a trillion dollars to ICE etc. They were already using that Ukrainian woman’s death to push their racist narrative. They will find something regardless. They will happily manufacture a controversy from anything. See Cracker Barrel.

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          Totally agree. Either way, this will 1000000% be used to fan the flames. If it turns out to be a left wing woke nutjob or something they will obviously cream their pants in glee and just scream something along the lines of “see? The left is so horrible and so violent. Look at what they’ve done! We need to stop them now before it gets worse!” If it’s a right wing idiot they’ll just gloss over that and say “look how violent our cities our. There’s criminals roaming the streets, we need to bring in the tanks to take our cities back!”