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  • You must be in USA, where Tesla is protected behind trade barriers. Because in the rest of the world, Tesla is not that competitive anymore.
    If you want straight up competition VW group has better cars and a wider range (VW, Audi, Skoda, Cupra and Porsche). Renault also has some good options, and If you want even better than that, we have BMW and Mercedes. But they are also more expensive.
    If you want good range but cheap, we have decent Chinese options like BYD, MG, NIO, Xpeng despite the 17% tariff.
    But also Nissan and Toyota have good options, and Volvo and Polestar. And Mazda just announced their e6.
    Even Stelantis seems to be making a slightly better effort now, With Opel, Peugeot, Citroen and FIAT.

    None of the above cars will do phantom brakes, or cut your fingers off on the trunk. or lock you in if the car catches fire. Or have a 30% failure rate at the first mandatory safety check. Not even the Chinese are that bad!

    Here (EU) there is absolutely no reason to buy a Tesler, except if you only heard 10 years ago they were good, and haven’t had any updates since.

    Oh BTW even USA had a decent competitor with the Ford Mustang. But I guess that’s over now, and I’d really hate to have to buy an EV in USA now.












  • The Hong Kong-listed company has a market value of about $160bn, up about 50% so far this year. Tesla is valued at $780bn despite a share-price plunge

    It’s absolutely insane how overvalued Tesla is.
    Byd is selling more cars has higher revenue, and has recently announced worlds fastest charging system by far.
    Tesla growth has stopped already 2024, while Byd is still growing.
    Tesla has a snail like development cycle of about 5 years! Which is bad by any standard.
    While Byd is more than 3 times faster, and has a cutthroat development cycle of about 1½ year!! (3 years is the industri average)

    Yet Tesla is still valued almost 5 times higher!?