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Sick bastard, that seat was only 4 years old.

Exactly, it’s a pretext and the people are immediately removed from the country without due process so they never have a chance to defend themselves

Pringles come in a can, it’s not too far fetched.

They had a reason to suspect him, but that reason wasn’t obtained thru legal means, so they have to invent a plausible second reason and call it a parallel investigation if they want to keep any evidence gained since he was apprehended.

I think it is exactly this.

The ‘Anonymous tip’ thing is also used when they have absolutely no other way to get illegally obtained (think, Snowden) evidence to the police.

The story from the police is that a person saw the pictures on the news showing his chin and nose and somehow managed to recognize him and also decided to call the police. Alternatively, they have better video footage of his face and have access to McDonalds (and probably most corporation’s) video feeds to run live facial recognition then they called in a hit as ‘an anonymous tip’.

We already know that law enforcement/intelligence can compel companies to share live access to their stored data. Snowden’s leaks showed that they could access, for counter-terrorism purposes, any gmail account through a web interface. There’s no reason to think that video camera footage (which is an absolute goldmine for intelligence purposes) would be excluded from these sweeping domestic spying powers.

Jokes on them, I wasn’t paying that shit anyway.

Take it out of my social security, should such a thing exist when I retire.

Yeah, the gun lobby work details are new.

But the techniques that they use are not specific to the gun lobby. They obtain a lot of personal data, profile the data into silos based on the kinds of messaging that works for them (primarily things that trigger fear, outrage, anger, conspiratorial thoughts, etc) and use those profiles to craft memes.

They then make a lot of fake accounts on social media and attempt to insinuate themselves into the social graphs of their target populations and then spend weeks/months pouring these poisoned memes into the conversation on social media.

In Trump’s campaign and Brexit they used a bunch of ‘Which Marvel character are you’-style quizzes to ask a bunch of questions to generate the psychological profiles. They also had access to voter role data from the primary campaigns.

The execution of the plan, once they had the targeting data, was the same in all of their campaigns. It’s not much different than what advertisers do, but they’re not bound by any FCC regulations and have no qualms about lying or being deceptive in their messaging.

That’s nonsense, Twitter is thriving and Truth has tens of real users

You can just watch The Great Hack or The Social Dilemma, these are the same people and techniques as what got Brexit passed and Trump elected

I’m starting to think those people in the White House are Not Like Us …

Great place, except for how far from NYC it is. I miss the days of being able to travel to NYC in less than 24 hours

Oh yeah, this guy.

He couldn’t have done it, he was spending that time at my house helping me move. You guys were there too, remember?

They’re not prisoners, they’re not charged with a crime.

They’re in the US without the legal authority to be in the US. Despite the drumbeat from the right calling them ‘Illegals’, they’re not criminals… they simply are not allowed to be here (due to not having a visa) and so they’re being returned to their country of origin. This is how immigration enforcement has been done for centuries in the US.

The major difference now is that Trump is treating undocumented immigrants as if they’re a national security threat and allocating a large amount of resources to deporting these people. Obviously, this is massively damaging to the US as the lax enforcement over the decades has shifted our workforce so that much of our domestic farming and food production is done by immigrants, often without documentation. His motivations seem to be to play to the racism in his base and the damage that this enforcement action causes to families is reprehensible and disgusting.

But, in the end, this is the same means immigration enforcement that we’ve been using in the US for as long as any of us has been alive. The only difference is the scale and motivation.

The Air Force isn’t doing anything illegal and protecting Airmen from retaliation is well within the mission scope of the Air Force. The OP isn’t basing their arguments on reality. They’re attempting to frame the removing of name and unit patches as something sinister to people who are ignorant of how these things work.

You don’t want to have a bunch of people who’re angry and could potentially be vengeful to have your name and other identifying information. It’s as simple as that.

Ahh yes, they’re only transporting ice agents right … It’s not like there are civilians on the plane who may or may not have been given due process.

Moving the goal posts, yet again.

If ICE is violating due process, that is for the courts to decide and issue sanctions. That hasn’t happened, as of this comment, there is nothing about these flights that are illegal.

ICE requests transport and the military provides it under 10USC2642. That makes the Air Force’s transportation legal which is what the entire post is about.

The problem is that you don’t even consider the cargo humans.

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Ah yes, ad hominem. Nothing says ‘I have run out of arguments’ like name-calling. I’m blocking you now.

And…? So you have a logical retort, or lack the ability to use google?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)

The burden of proof (Latin: onus probandi, shortened from Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat – the burden of proof lies with the one who speaks, not the one who denies) is the obligation on a party in a dispute to provide sufficient warrant for its position.

It is not my responsibility to support your argument by trying to find the source of your quotes. That’s not how the burden of proof works.

Considering that your position is that this is a violation of Posse Comitatus including a quote that says “there is disagreement over whether this language may apply to troops used in an advisory, support, disaster response, or other homeland defense role, as opposed to domestic law enforcement.[1]” seems to contradict your own argument.

The Air Force is under the command of the Commander in Chief and so they are required to comply with lawful orders.

Providing transportation for other federal agencies is a lawful use of military equipment under 10 U.S. Code § 2642(a)(3):

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/2642

(a) Authority.—Subject to subsection (b), the Secretary of Defense may authorize the use of the Department of Defense reimbursement rate for military transportation services provided by a component of the Department of Defense as follows:

[…]

(3) For military transportation services provided to any element of the Federal Government outside the Department of Defense in circumstances other than those specified in paragraphs (1) and (2), but only if the Secretary of Defense determines that the provision of such services will promote the improved use of transportation capacity without any negative effect on the national security objectives or the national security interests contained within the United States commercial transportation industry.

So, as long as the Secretary of Defense approves of the flights, then it is legal for the Air Force to provide military transportation services to any element of the Federal Government outside the Department of Defense. ICE is an element of the Federal Government outside the Department of Defense and so the use of Air Force equipment to provide transportation for ICE is legal under 10 U.S. Code § 2642(a)(3).

You’re quoting things with footnotes but not linking the footnotes.

The Air Force isn’t executing the laws. Saying that it is semantics isn’t an argument that. All legal arguments are based on semantics.

The people in ICE custody were captured by ICE. ICE executed the laws. Once the people were identified as foreign nationals, by ICE, and determined to require deportation, by ICE, then they are transported, by ICE, to their country of origin.

The deportees are in ICE custody (see the ICE agents in the OP) until they’re in their country of origin where they are released, by ICE.

The Air Force simply operates the aircraft and provides all of the required logistics to do so.

This is no different than ICE using Delta to return people to their country. It would be silly to say that Delta has become a law enforcement organization because ICE purchased tickets to transport people to their country of origin.

You’re moving the goal posts. The Air Force isn’t enforcing domestic policy. They’re operating an aircraft to provide logistics for other federal agencies.

The other agencies are enforcing domestic policy, not the Air Force. The people are not in the custody of the Air Force and they were not captured by the Air Force. ICE is simply using the Air Force equipment as transport and Air Force personnel operate and secure that equipment.

Out of all the branches it doesn’t surprise me at all that the Air Force is the branch falling over itself to follow trump’s orders.

I’m not sure how you can imply that you’re familiar with how the military operates and then say something as ignorant as this.

All branches of the military “fall over themselves” to follow the orders of the President. That’s literally how the chain of command works.

Be upset at Trump for assigning shit missions, but it’s incredibly ignorant to attack any specific branch of the military for following lawful orders.

What do you picture the alternative to be? That some Airman should get himself court marshalled for refusing the order to remove his name and unit patch?

Could you explain how transporting people to their country of origin is an illegal order?

Or, maybe explain how you would handle the order as an enlisted soldier?

I know this one, from Middle School civics: The Judicial Branch!

Maybe they don’t teach that in law school (???)

Or DEI people

Translated to right-wing populist