My friends invented band members for the band 69boys. “Quick Skeet” Fisher, Reginald “Busta Nut” Gunderson. They are not real… well they used to not be real. I think Gunderson started to do interviews. Obscure enough to evade moderation, important enough to have people rip from Wikipedia without verifying

I have been bamboozled by fondant on carrot cake at a buffet before. My life was ruined.

Well because someone used the name for clout for his shit scooter, and it left an embarrassing impression totally ruining hoverboards for all time.

Its looks and probably feels bad… but to be honest, this is a solvable. The main thing lost is the keyboard, and they are not terrible to replace. And your dignity may need some time , but with a little work this will all have bean in the past.

No self defense can only be claimed against someone of equal or lower economic class, or power

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I don’t think a Revolution in two month’s is a good idea. Again at this stage, militias such as the Black Panthers would be much more effective.

You are attempting to discredit my position by setting arbitrary unrealistic expectations, and pointing out my incapability in pulling that off.

You are not any longer arguing against the principle of my argument. It would take time, and the first steps is to lay the ground work for it to happen such as, convincing people of the need and effectiveness of militias.

Were you the one who is said they were leaving the states due to expected tyranny?

I generally have you in high regard here on Lemmy. We have had discussions in the past and i made a concerted effort to not attack you. I have been civil. So i will have to ask you to look past my difficulties in spelling, and my constant battle against auto correct. I have military training, but they are not necessary to effectively organize, or train in fire arms.

That’s a good question. I guess the start is finding like minded people, or convincing others to be receptive of the ones that form if not get them actuated themselves. So what i am attempting now. There was that group of armed protestors that stand watch over planned parenthood clinics. They satisfy a price of the puzzle

It would not be too late if at this point, before snipers starts shooting, that militias start to form and the minority arm up and train now. That’s why i am pushing this. And it’s never too late to fight for freedom. Just because the insurgencies against the nazis didn’t “win” doesn’t mean it wasn’t worth doing. The point of the insurgency is to “not lose“ and every life saved was worth the effort.

Are you saying if the lgbtq community formed a militia and walked around american streets, they would be gunned down by snipers? We are not at that point yet, so a militia like the Black Panthers is needed. But if we are at the point where the government is sniping its citizens, then we would need an insurgency.

You haven’t showed anything. You asserted. And i brought up the black panthers as the counter argument.

Yes, like its two completely different things

The last three wars have been pretty recent, and haven’t not gone well against a foe no where near or equal. Not so much as a pyric victory, but an eventual unwillingness to keep wasting time and money and lives, and we just left. What do you call it when you just leave a war failing all your objectives and handing over territory to the enemy?

I’m not saying a gorilla war is needed. I am saying collective action is needed.

The reason i bring up gorilla warfare is because of the “there is no point in fighting tyranny because it’s too hard” argument. in the recent wars verses gorilla warfare and insurgency, it has been an absolute shit show boondoggle for the last 3 wars we have been in. And that is with the advantage of untouchable logistics, the world’s largest, and most secure, military industrial complex, top of the line weapons and training, and the homeland being unreachable.

Either way it’s best if those we care about own and become proficient in fire arms.

When it’s needed. I don’t see a path that prevents tyranny or revolution, but that doesn’t mean there is none. You say that people should arm themselves, and i agree, the main difference being what we see as the threat i guess. But I take inspiration from the Black Panthers. I believe they were right and righteous in their actions, no matter what was taught in schools. And you know they were effective, because the state conspired against them and they got the NRA TO ARGUE FOR MORE RESTRICTIVE GUN LAWS because they have a certain power dynamic they want to uphold.

Oh? Now it’s a discussion about who should be sacrificed and for what. Freedom always has a cost. I never removed myself from the possibility. But right now, the royal “we”, seem to be sacrificing the minority, the different, the poor, the non christian and it gets worse every day. Freedoms are slipping, corporations get stronger, and standards of living and hope for the future fades. This will only accelerate. Arguing to arm oneself for personal protection but not collective action will doom all, but the chosen, to be picked off one by one.

The military has had a pretty lousy track record against gorilla warfare from much smaller, worse armed groups who, by the width of an ocean were unable to affect logistical lines, the means to project warfare, or the families of our soldiers. A Revolution within would be much worse.

Whoa, I’m not attacking you. I have a difference in opinion as to why people should be armed. Not saying that one does not have a right to self defense, just that i put stock in the need to collectively hold the government accountable and fight tyranny

The second amendment was not made for personal protection