It’s actually worse than that this person committed no crimes saw no trial has been kidnapped, stripped up their human rights, and sent to another country to be held and used as forced labor for the rest of their life.

This person literally just got slave traded.

So, when do states stop sending federal taxes to the federal government then?

Two things can be true you know.

Democrats at least in the last cycle told their voters what they can get based on what is achievable during a term.

It was a realistic outlook. It wasn’t just lying and pandering.

What seems to be what you would prefer which is absolutely crazy. Why do you want to be lied to just for your vote and then no actual action taken? Somehow that is better than being told what is real and then action being taken on what is possible?

The amount of commentary in this thread that share the sentiment is mind-boggling. If most of the voter base in this country only cares about lip service then this place is well and truly fucked. Nothing can fix that, not within a couple generations.

If this is the case then idiocracy really was a documentary…

Most of the thread seems to take this lesson. Which is crazy.

They would literally rather have a pandering candidate who just lies to them to get their votes and then does nothing after then a candidate who is transparent about what they can and cannot do, and pushes realistic change that can actually be achieved within their term.

This country is fucked, because the voter base is comprised of morons. The education system has failed this country and there really isn’t any turning back now. If entire generations lack critical thinking ability then they lack the ability to make good choices, and are unable to see past their nose, never mind vote.

Given the number of people in this thread stating they’ll never vote Democrat again I don’t expect that to change.

I’m pretty pissed at the system myself but in no way am I going to encourage more Republican leadership. Which is far far worse than what we would get otherwise.

It’s really weird to shoot yourself in the foot just to spite your hand.

I don’t understand this.

The statement made means “are you with me or not, I’m not going to stop on your behalf”

And generally the campaign trail was pro workers rights, the activism history was for workers rights.

So it sounds like teamsters had something else going on? It seems like this thread is reading it wrong.

“I refuse to accept progress if it’s not perfect progress”

Is what you’re effectively stating here.

Cmon, really? I have this argument with my toddler when he asks for something like a rip off a loaf of bread. He wants the whole loaf, he can’t have the whole load, so he gets a choice: The piece you can have, or nothing.

So. Would you rather have this progress, or nothing? That’s your choice, and right now it sounds a whole lot like you would rather have no progress?

Yep. It’s no longer about the policies or what we can do to improve the country and protect it.

It’s all about framing and mudslinging and nothing more. Just look at the absolute insane level of astroturfing and bot spam over the last few days throwing absolutely everything at the wall to discredit and drum up hate against Harris.

All it is is a campaign to rile up right wingers to hate someone else. It’s literally nothing more than this, there’s no actual value to any of it it is the opposite of valuable to this country.

I mean, for now, all of these systems are crumbling beneath our feet.

USPS was extremely reliable. Now I hear from folks “Oh I sent it via mail, no wonder you never got it”.

This includes the teeth that these systems have

There’s no pressure until these things prove that they actually have teeth.

He’s literally went his entire life threatened with punishments that have never been received. I don’t even believe it’s going to happen until it happens given what we’ve witnessed thus far

I can only imagine going to pass and failing to do so in as timeless manner as needs to occur…

That would make passing so much more dangerous as people are in the other lane even longer.

Sounds like it would be more expensive? Nitrogen is incredibly cheap to concentrate out of the air, 70% of what we breath is nitrogen after all.