• TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I wish my fellow leftists would realize that protests like these don’t work. We don’t further our cause by alienating ourselves from the political mainstream. We need to be concerned with the efficacy of our actions, not only the justification for them. Having good intentions is not enough, we also need effective strategies.

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    9 months ago

    Well… I was wondering how long it would take you to go from posting anti-Biden articles to anti-Harris articles.

    Looks like it only took a couple of weeks.

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      9 months ago

      It’s from a very reputable news source, NBC News. Many other outlets are covering it too. They did an entire segment with pundits discussing it on CNN. It’s still a big issue that can’t be swept under the rug

      Here’s the CNN segment: https://youtu.be/jfyfdThTZ88

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        9 months ago

        Yes, the story is fine. The way it is being spun by you and the original source you provided is not.

        You don’t care that she spoke to the protesters before the rally began. You only care that she shut them down when they interrupted the rally.

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    9 months ago

    That’s fair, people are there to listen to Harris not whatever random audience members can shout the loudest.

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    9 months ago

    What this hack piece of news failed to report:

    Before her rally in Detroit, Vice President Kamala Harris spoke briefly with the co-founders of the Uncommitted National Movement, which mobilized tens of thousands of voters in Michigan to withhold their votes from President Biden in the primary earlier this year over his support for Israel’s war in Gaza. Abbas Alawieh and Layla Elabed said they were in the welcoming line for Harris and Governor Walz, and communicated to Harris that they wanted to support her but that voters wanted her to consider an arms embargo to immediately stop the carnage in the besieged enclave.”

    Harris listened to stories of people in Michigan who have had dozens of family members killed in Gaza. The leaders asked to meet with her about the embargo request, and she indicated she was open to it, and introduced the two leaders to her staff.

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    9 months ago

    Took me too long to realize ozma is truly a concern troll. Rooting for Harris while shitting on Biden, now shitting on Harris like they didn’t endorse her just recently. Blocked.

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      9 months ago

      Politics is messy. It’s ok to criticize politicians. They’re not your friend. They work for us. Never said don’t vote for her. I’m saying she’s really going to lose some of the young vote she just gained back if she keeps it up. Also the uncommitted voters.

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        9 months ago

        Watch out, you’re going to piss off the neoliberals! Influx of bad arguments based on false dichotomies in 3…2…1…

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          9 months ago

          But the important thing here is that you now have a way to discourage people from voting for Harris just like you had a way to discourage people from voting for Biden.

          Anything but stop the rapist dictator from marching all the Latino and queer people into camps.

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            9 months ago

            Clearly criticism for a candidate has no other purpose than getting people to vote for their opponents.

            /d

            Oh wait, that’s actually true if you live in the United States, where you lot play politics like team sports.

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              9 months ago

              Or… R2O spent months posting article after article about why people shouldn’t vote for Biden and is now doing it again with Harris. And not even really hiding it.

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                9 months ago

                And I was 100% correct. I said they will replace him for months prior. Look what happened. Biden is out.

                Still vote for Kamala/Walz but I’m saying if she keeps up this “clap back” shit against voters with valid concerns… she’ll lose battleground states. She needs every vote she can earn. She can’t afford to lose voters.

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          9 months ago

          Yep, and there’s not much we can do individually. My hope is that people will recognize this before it gets too bad. Most people are good, if given the chance.