The letter, which was spammed on Lemmy and deleted multiple times, just linked to other SubStack blogs as “evidence”. Come on, people
This is the difference. Both the right and the left have their cranks, but the ones on the left never get mainstream acceptance. While on the right, they make the crank president.
What the fuck is this stroke of a title?
There’s nothing confusing about it IMO.
People need to accept who we are, collectively, as a country. We chose this shit. It’ll be a wild ride.
Spoonamore doesn’t have shit and has admitted as much when pressed. The guy basically contests results that he does not like. He also does not know what a bullet ballot is. That term deals with ranked choice elections where someone only picks top candidates. The term he is looking for is undervoting.
I get it. When you are shown the enthusiasm at Harris’ rallies and how absolutely batshit Trump is, it’s pretty easy to conclude that the election must have been tampered with. But there is no evidence that it was directly tampered with. Republicans do a lot of shit to mess with votes but that is all known shit like making voting more difficult in certain areas, gerrymandering, voter roll purges, etc. They are not directly tampering with the presidential election on a mass scale nor are they competent enough to.
I was expecting it to look like a close race where Trump would cheat using the courts.
That didn’t happen.
I’ve been peaking back on Reddit to a few sub reddits, r/somethingiswrong2024 is the main one. There’s r/verify2024 and r/houstonwade as well that have some interesting ideas and points brought up about all this. They simply dismissed this snopes report, stating snopes had lost credibility over the past years but not sure how true that is. I don’t know if I was just getting a contact high from the copium over there, I have hope still, I want to believe there is something in the works but ultimately without concrete, indisputable, outright blatant cheating thoroughly documented, there’s not chance of overturning the election. Especially without stirring up the magats nest and causing civil unrest. So do we just stick it out for the next two years and hope we can freely vote and try to gain some sanity back into this country?
There isn’t. The numbers don’t add up correctly anymore. You can look yourself by checking any other race in a state with the highest number of votes and then the presidential race in that state. If the difference is less than Trump’s margin of victory then there cannot be enough bullet ballots to have made a difference.
This is the case in the crucial state of Pennsylvania. There are about 70,000 less votes in the Senate race than the Presidential race. Trump’s margin over Harris is about 100,000 votes. That means there’s at least 30,000 votes in the margin of victory that voted for Senator and thus are not Bullet Ballots.
The math doesn’t math. And the cyber security stuff was always highly suspect. They basically asserted the machines were online with no evidence that was the case and no credible theory for how they would be reprogrammed to be online.
Thank you! I just needed someone to check that dudes math, very happy they did.
North Carolina
Spoonamore alleged that the purported hacking and fraud in North Carolina proved to be “the most extreme” and that “the public results indicate over 350,000 voters cast a ballot for Trump and no other race.” However, this is false.
According to the North Carolina State Board of Elections’ website, as of Nov. 21, 5,722,556 voters cast ballots. Of those, 5,699,152 ballots displayed votes in the race for president. The website also reported that 5,592,243 ballots bore votes for the state’s governor’s race. A comparison of the numbers for total votes and the gubernatorial race would reveal the maximum number of possible “bullet vote” ballots for all presidential candidates. The difference between the two numbers is 130,313 votes — a count nowhere near the 350,000 votes stated by Spoonamore. Trump received 183,048 more of North Carolinian’s votes than Harris.
Welp.
That’s not how this works folks. You are supposed to ignore all evidence to the contrary, then spend the next 4 years claiming the election was stolen and whining like a spoiled toddler
He told a good, plausible story. The count claims were the first thing I was going to verify, and Snopes pointed right to the actual source.
Yeah, we’re the people that always love to talk about evidence. So, let’s make sure we’re applying that principle evenly and demanding and looking at evidence for claims we like the sound and feeling of.
Well there are irregularitiea and a manual recount would either provide evidence or it would prove that no such thing happened.
You need evidence to justify a recount when they’re normally only expected to shift the results by less than a percentage point. They’re not cheap, you don’t just do them whenever people feel like it.
I think that’s enough evidence to warrant such recount.
There’s a irregularity that, did not happen in prior elections and only in swing states, not even neighboring ones. It could be nothing or could be valid.
You are saying that there’s no evidence, but with electronic voting machines the only time you get evidence is if you verify it.
The most mind-blowing thing to me is that the less people are familiar with software engineering the more trusting they are of electronic voting machines and when there are irregularities just dismissing it.
Tell me, what evidence you would need to say “ok, I think we should recount these machine counted votes”.
What specific irregularities? I haven’t heard anything credible yet. This article is about how some of the irregularities being claimed are actually falsehoods people made up, the numbers they use are incorrect.
Evidence could really be anything, a witness, a whistleblower, a report of some sort. A shift in voting patterns doesn’t really qualify is all, since that happens all the time, and is very normal.
Well it says in the article. Large number of bullet votes that didn’t happen in the past and only happened in the swing states.
With electronic voting machines how there could be witness if fraud happens inside, you need to recount to verify this. That’s the only way.
The article specifies that the bullet votes claim used incorrect numbers. The man lied, or was misinformed or something.
Witness was just one example of one type of evidence I would accept. Many forms of fraud can happen that can be witnessed. I also listed others.
“Bullet votes” completely jibe with the narrative that a small but significant percentage of Trump voters are willfully low-information, so un-invested in the democratic process that they can’t be bothered to take the time even to vote a straight party ticket, and think that voting for a single strong-man will fix all their problems. The non-electoral factors behind all this are deeply troubling, and many of them are criminal, but for the actual voting there’s no need to invent a conspiracy when simple shittiness will do.
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The bullet ballot nonsense was started by a Republican kook that’s made fake election claims about every election going all the way back to 2008.
Definitely something to ignore.
So we upgraded from blaming minority voters to literally Trump’s own 2020 election mouthpiece lmao.
Just saying, with that orange turd, every accusation is a confession
