• Verdant Banana@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    has the minimum wage gone up?

    did workers get more rights?

    when did we get that universal healthcare?

    neither the Democrats nor the Republicans support workers

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      The min wage last went up under Dems. Yes, worker rights have expanded under Dems. Yes, Dems kneecapped themselves by taking a public option out of the ACA but at least they got super close, unlike the GOP, whose best claim to policy change on healthcare was that dramatic moment when McCain stopped them from repealing the ACA.

      One party wants granny to die from pre-existing conditions, the other isn’t quite left enough for you.

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        The min wage last went up under Dems.

        15 years ago.

        Yes, worker rights have expanded under Dems

        As long as you don’t consider the right to strike to be a right.

        Yes, Dems kneecapped themselves by taking a public option out of the ACA

        They kneecap themselves a lot.

        but at least they got super close

        Why do Democrats keep expecting us to be happy with “we pretended to try”? And again, this was 15 years ago. You can’t coast on half-accomplishments forever.

        , unlike the GOP

        And the assumption that all criticism of Democrats must be support for the GOP rears its head.

        One party wants granny to die from pre-existing conditions, the other isn’t quite left enough for you.

        One party killed the public option for you. One party made sure the minimum wage stayed low for you. You’re happy with what we didn’t get.

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          Omg. You act like Democrats have had the ability to get shit passed. Many of these things you want require Congress, and we’ve been locked down by Conservatives and DINO’s (See Manchin and Sinema). We’ve never had a super majority that would allow this stuff to get passed. We have plenty of Democrats in power that are advocating for these things and we have plenty of support for the people for things like this. Things were moving in a positive direction, and sure, they could have moved faster, but at least things were becoming more progressive over time. But no no, let’s completely ignore every accomplishment that Democrats have done for the last 20 years and instead hyperfixate on all the things they still haven’t done.

          Like, what’s your point? What are you trying to achieve? Make Democrats look bad? For what purpose? Are you one of those Lemmy.ml guys?

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            Omg. You act like Democrats have had the ability to get shit passed. Many of these things you want require Congress, and we’ve been locked down by Conservatives and DINO’s (See Manchin and Sinema). We’ve never had a super majority that would allow this stuff to get passed.

            Only a simple majority is required to permanently do away with the oh-so-convenient 60 vote requirement of the filibuster. We gave such a majority to Democrats twice. They preferred to keep their precious relic of the Jim Crow era.

            But no no, let’s completely ignore every accomplishment that Democrats have done for the last 20 years and instead hyperfixate on all the things they still haven’t done.

            None of those accomplishments were the result of the sort of blithe contentment you demand.

            Like, what’s your point? What are you trying to achieve? Make Democrats look bad?

            No, they do that all by themselves. It’s why they lose.