• cogman@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    So let’s be really fucking clear here on what Vivek and Musk want. It isn’t more immigration. They want disposable tech workers that they can ship back to their countries of origin when they misbehave. They want the power dynamic they have over H1Bs that they don’t have over US citizens.

    What Musk and Vivek can’t find isn’t “motivated” americans. They can’t find cheap american tech workers who have to take abuse or else they get deported.

    This is, BTW, why right wingers focus so heavily on border control but not employment enforcement. You could end 90% of undocumented workers today if you penalized businesses found employing them. And it’s real fucking easy to find those businesses. Go to just about any farm in the US.

    The reason for boosting ICE funding is so a business owner can turn to their undocumented employees and say “If you don’t fall in line, I’ll call ICE and deport your ass”. This allows them to issue all sorts of abuse at their employees that they can’t get away with for US citizens.

    This is why open borders or easy paths to citizenship is important.

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      7 months ago

      This is a reason I haven’t quite heard yet. It really makes sense when you hear these tech fucks who claim everyone needs to work 80 hours and not join unions etc. Your H1s can’t complain about anything due to not only losing their job, but their life here too.

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      They want disposable tech workers that they can ship back to their countries of origin when they misbehave.

      Exactly. They want indentured laborers and if they had been smart enough to tell the other conservatives, the other conservatives would have gone along with it.

      But they’re not smart people.

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      7 months ago

      So let’s be really fucking clear here on what Vivek and Musk want. It isn’t more immigration. They want disposable tech workers that they can ship back to their countries of origin when they misbehave. They want the power dynamic they have over H1Bs that they don’t have over US citizens.

      Given just what freaks Thiel and Vance are, I bet they not only want this, too, but probably want to go further:

      https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas