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    A man was shot and killed while exchanging gunfire with Harris County Sheriff’s Office deputies following a traffic stop in north Houston Sunday.

    He wasn’t shot because he was a Sovcit idiot, he was shot because he was shooting at police. Why even mention he was a Sovcit idiot? It doesn’t change the story at all.

    The site might as well have: “Man with blue pants shot, killed during exchange with Harris County deputies”

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      FTA:

      Deputies conducted a traffic stop on the vehicle with expired tags and a broken taillight on FM 1960. Sheriff Ed Gonzalez said the man refused to exit his vehicle and identified himself as a sovereign citizen.

      Deputies engaged the man in conversation for over an hour in an attempt to remove him from the vehicle, Gonzalez said.

      Refusing to comply with their demands, he drove away from the scene and engaged in a brief pursuit with deputies before his vehicle was brought to a stop on the corner of FM 1960 and Ella Boulevard.

      After stepping out of his vehicle, the man, armed with a pistol, began shooting at deputies. They exchanged gunfire and the man was shot dead. No deputies were injured during the exchange, Gonzalez said.

      Ahem…

      He wasn’t shot because he was a Sovcit idiot…

      Oh, yes he was.

      …he was shot because he was shooting at police.

      His “ideology” dictated a pathology that led to a predictable outcome. The article is a clear and concise description of the standard sovcit idiot playbook, however cops are usually successful in arresting the dopes before it gets shooty. Not always.

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        An hour of talking to the man. Must been white because a black man would not get this treatment if asked to exit vehicle. Matter of fact they probably wouldn’t have asked.

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        I misread your post, but the prima facie is that he drew a weapon on law enforcement, that as a result.of being a sovcit idiot.

        Chorine in the gene.pool. What a bitch.

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        He wasn’t shot because he was a Sovcit idiot…

        Oh, yes he was.

        Lots of Sovcit idiots are pulled over and NOT shot.

        If a Sovcit is pull over and not shot, and a Sovcit is pulled over and shot, the status of the idiot being Sovcit or not doesn’t make them be shot. Its when the idiot starts shooting at police he’s shot, just like when non-Sovcit idiots shoot at police, they’re shot.

        So no, the idiot being sovcit didn’t change the outcome.

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          Being a sovcit led to the altercation which led to the shooting which led to the death.

          Just because not every sovcit gets shot doesn’t mean his being sovcit isn’t relevant. Not everyone who pulls a sword on police gets shot, but pulling a sword on police would be relevant if the person pulling the sword out got shot.

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          Yeah, but this guy wasn’t “lots of other sovcits”. He was this guy who took it way too far and suffered the consequences of his batshit ideology in a very predictable way. He did not commit his actions in a vacuum— he followed a very specific script of escalation in accordance with sovereign citizen ideology, and that is what is to blame, for it’s that influence which is undoubtedly what led him to this very predictable end.

          The article (which I quoted) spells that out very clearly and unambiguously.

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            he followed a very specific script of escalation in accordance with sovereign citizen ideology, and that is what is to blame, for it’s that influence which is undoubtedly what led him to this very predictable end.

            If your statement is true, why don’t all Sovcit idiots engage in gunfire with police, if its prescribed that way in their batshit insane ideology?

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              This isn’t a conversation about ALL sovcits, just this one and what they did. Besides, since when do adherents to any beliefs system always follow every tenet, or even universally agree on what they even are?

              lol, your arguments are fallacious and spurious

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              Their cowards? Many people talk a great game about their ideology but fail to follow through.

              Many(most?) religious texts require stoning people to death for violating certain rules. Just because most don’t, doesn’t mean it isn’t relevant if one person does because of that text…

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      Why did he open fire on the cops?

      Meth? Personal grudge? Former cop whistleblower fighting for his life? Just hates cops and shoots at people all the time? Suicidal? It’s part of the Who What Where Why When formula.

      It’s a valid question, and valid to include in the story and, yes, in the headline.

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          You have to read more than the headline:

          “After stepping out of his vehicle, the man, armed with a pistol, began shooting at deputies. They exchanged gunfire and the man was shot dead. No deputies were injured during the exchange, Gonzalez said.”

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            Im just commenting on the clickbait and slanted headline and its intended effects.

            I did read the article and thats how I came to see the slant, and why I chose to comment on it.

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      Because they had a conversation for an hour and a half talking to the guy before he drove off on them. That’s an hour and a half of sovcit circle talk bullshit.