• danekrae@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        Good one.

        Every country has problems with school shootings, homeless, institutional racism, voting for billionaire backed criminal dictators, PFAS and lead, insane wealth gaps and I can go on and on. So why pick on a shit hole country?

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      Honestly don’t understand how hostages weren’t a required part of that resolution.

      Edited to include the “required” component. There is nothing requiring a hostage release with the ceasefire, to clarify my initial statement.

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        It was. Just not the way Israel wanted. So the US vetoed it for them.

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          It wasn’t the way the us wanted it. They’ve held since the beginning of this that hostages must be released if a ceasefire is established. This resolution did not require that.

          https://usun.usmission.gov/explanation-of-vote-on-a-un-security-council-resolution-on-the-situation-in-the-middle-east/

          We made clear throughout negotiations we could not support an unconditional ceasefire that failed to release the hostages.

          Because, as this Council has previously called for, a durable end to the war must come with the release of the hostages. These two urgent goals are inextricably linked.

          This resolution abandoned that necessity, and for that reason, the United States could not support it.

          Simply put, this resolution would have sent a dangerous message to Hamas: There’s no need to come back to the negotiating table.

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            Everyone knows Hamas would not have accepted releasing the hostages unconditionally. This ceasefire proposal was the product of weeks/months of back and forth and where everyone on both sides agreed was the best way to move forward as it involved concessions on both sides. The US then vetoed it last minute since the killing Palestinians is more important than anything else.

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              The source I provided does not support your opinion.

              Rather than adopting a resolution that emboldens Hamas, let’s instead demand Hamas implement Resolution 2735 without further condition or delay.

              https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15723.doc.htm

              By resolution 2735 (2024) (to be issued as document S/RES/2735(2024)), the 15-member organ noted that the implementation of this proposal would enable the following outcomes to spread over three phases, the first of which would include an immediate, full and complete ceasefire with the release of hostages; the return of the remains of some hostages who have been killed; the exchange of Palestinian prisoners; withdrawal of Israeli forces from the populated areas in Gaza; the return of Palestinian civilians to their homes; and the safe and effective distribution of humanitarian assistance at scale throughout Gaza.

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                Hamas and the Palestinian Authority both accepted this resolution.

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                  Sinwar did not accept it, so no, Hamas officially did not accept it. While members of Hamas had taken it favorably, he did not, and that’s what counts.

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        5 months ago

        I do. Hamas won’t give them up, so a ceasefire including them is irrelevant. They’d much rather blame the israe for noncompliance