Summary
European investigators allege that the Chinese-owned ship Yi Peng 3 deliberately dragged its anchor to sever two Baltic Sea undersea data cables connecting Lithuania-Sweden and Finland-Germany.
While the Chinese government is not suspected, officials are probing possible Russian intelligence involvement.
The ship’s suspicious movements, including transponder shutdowns and zig-zagging, suggest deliberate action.
The vessel, linked to Russian trade since March 2024, was carrying Russian fertilizer when stopped.
NATO warships surround the ship, but international maritime laws limit investigators’ access.
Seize the ship and sell it to cover the cost of repair.
Seize the ship and sell it to cover the cost of repair.
Seizing a ship in international waters is a bad move. A better idea; block the docking of all Chinese ships at NATO country ports across the world until the cost of repairs are paid. Payment would arrive in about 5 minutes because the cost of of all Chinese flagged cargo ships idling outside ports for any length of time would be far far FAR more expensive.
I’m down with that.
And trebucheting the captain back over the border with Russia.
I agree, but replace China with Russia.
Better to sue the shipping company into oblivion
Better to sue the shipping company into oblivion
The shipping company only has 2 ships. source
Fuck it then. Seize their ships when they’re in port. Assuming that they’re not some shadow puppet company for a bigger company, you’ve halved their possible business.
Seize their ships when they’re in port.
I didn’t dig very deep, but they may only be used in Russian and Chinese ports. This seems like a good way to insulate a larger company that does use NATO friendly ports. Create a new company, put two ships in it, and do risky shit in Russian and Chinese ports. If the company gets sanctioned the big company is protected.
It was an act of war. Sink it.
I’m a complete noob at this, but would it be possible for a submarine to cut the cable at the same time and install something to snoop on the data?
If you want to snoop you don’t cut the cable so people come to repair it where you installed your snoopy device. Also, if there is no data on the cable because it has been cut there is no data to snoop.
Not easily.
They’re deep enough down that getting to them requires some creativity (ROVs, specially trained deep sea divers, etc.)
Then, how do you sever the connection with the operator not seeing the break? Just installing the snooper is going to take time. A sudden loss of all signal and then that signal coming back? Yeah they’ll notice.
Then how do they get the data back? Either they have to run their own cable out (expensive and obvious,) or they use the cable itself and double the data going through…( also obvious. )
Further, everyone and their grandma uses encryption for basically everything. Anything actually interesting is going to be heavily encrypted. (This is also why they’d double the data through put. The snooper won’t have the power to break the encryption,)
Maybe the ship that took out the bridge in Baltimore was on purpose too
Maybe bad things happen with Chinese ships unintentionally too.
I’m inclined to agree with this. Just apply Hanlon’s razor, people make mistakes, often.
It’s a good thing we’ve got all these razors helping us know what’s true
Situation: Someone painted the wall blue. Investigstors: “We came to the conclusion the wall is blue.”
Thank you captain obvious.
If it looks like a bear, acts like a bear and shits in the woods, guess what animal it is.
Edit: I don’t know if you guys are familiar with anchor operations. I am, as I have served 15 years in the navy. There is no way you drop an anchor by accident, with the correct anchor chain length compared to the depth of the sea, then to accidentally have the anchor chain break operated correctly (this isn’t as easy as pushing a button) and have the anchorchain stop accidentally placed (manual labor) so the chain isn’t ripped out of the ship while dragging it over the sea floor. Sailing with the chain out is also difficult; going too fast or making too tight turns drags the chain over the hull and the bulb, creating a nice Titanic effect. Dropping an anchor makes so much noice, the entire ship will hear it like there’s someone using pots and pans while drumming in the hallway. Even when a ship is 300+ meters long. So everyone on board knew about dropping the anchor. “Well maybe they were asleep” nope, this wakes everyone up.
Doing all of this requires manpower of several crew members as well as calculations for chain length and navigation. So the captain and officers were involved, as well as deckhands for operating the anchor winch and stop.
So to me this is a no-brainer that this was done deliberately, no doubt about it.
Russia: it’s obviously a very convincing puppeteer with IBS
If I shoot you at point blank range on national television, it still needs to be established as what happened at my trial.
Obvious things need documentation and proof when they are being done illegally.
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