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          If 19% don’t care, then it is acceptable to them.

          They are not upset it happened, they accept it. They do not explicitly support it tho.

          Add the 19% to 41% and get 60% do not have a problem with a broad daylight execution of a healthcare CEO.

          So if you want to be pedantic, email the person (or ai) that generated the headline.

          But 60% didn’t have a problem with it.

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    I doubt I’m “young” but I find it acceptable. I’m only shocked it doesn’t happen more. These people making insane amounts of money off the suffering of the working class have been getting away with too much for too long.

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      They make money by murdering people. Someone has to hold them to account since our justice system, which is bought and paid for by these same scumbags, surely won’t.

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    Many of these polls are written in way to ellicit a biased response.

    Others have already covered how this works, but I’ll add to it anyway.

    If you ask a question like “do you condemn violence against healthcare CEOs?” A lot of people are going to say yes, because they view themselves as people against violence and respond mostly to that first part.

    If you ask "did brian thompson deserve to die for his crimes? Many of the same people will say yes to that too, because people have an innate desire for justice.

    Polls do this all the time. It’s part of social engineering and plays on the phenomenon that the Asch Conformity Experiments analyzed. Around 35% of people will change their opinions to fit everyone else’s even if the answer or opinion is very obviously incorrect.

    Don’t let them take the narrative back.

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      “Do you think your house is too small”, vs “would you like a bigger house” … >> x% of people happy with size of their house

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      did brian thompson deserve to die for his crimes?

      The answer is no. Unless you are counting his drunk driving and insider trading. His business was operating legally, and he was providing legal orders when directing UHC to deny 30% or more of bills. And that’s the problem. Brian didn’t commit crimes, but the industry as a whole is insufficiently regulated, and should not be privatized, but they are so large and powerful that the general citizens cannot oust them. Denying any coverage and passing the bill on to the insured party should be illegal, but it isn’t.

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        It’s not just legal to deny 30% of claims, but he had a fiduciary duty to find ways to make the company profit. He may have “served the wrong master”, but the real crime is the existence of an insurance market where that’s both legal and expected

        For my similar brush with moral ambiguity, I interviewed for a job at a mass-email provider. It’s a perfectly legal company extending a legit job offer to do similar work as what I do now. However I find their existence repugnant, and generally oppose their actions where they affect me. Most importantly I said no. You have to take some responsibility for your actions.

        So no, he didn’t deserve to be killed. We can only hope the anger and outrage from that leads to health insurance reform so the crime of that market no longer exists. I’d be more than happy for someone in that position to lose a job they should not have taken. However, these extenuating circumstances mean that I also would not convict the person who executed him in protest

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      America is still too rich imo.
      I think economic collapse is near, next 10 years.
      That’s when we would have a chance to recalibrate this country

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      Exactly this. I suspect this group is both young enough to not have to supply their own insurance, or at least young enough to not have faced significant health costs yet. Many people have not yet experienced just how trash the US healthcare system is.

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    That sounds extremely low. What young voters are they polling? The Amish?

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    Many things people find despicable are common place in the fog of war. I will never agree with gunning down a poor person no matter what they did, justice is served for the poor daily on a cold lead plate. For the 1%??? Who can we call when insurance kills our loved ones? When Dr’s make intentional mistakes and your loved one is dead? Can you call the police and expect them to go snorkeling to find evidence? Or can you maybe expect a call in a few weeks with a maybe update? We have seen how they respond when one of their masters is murdered. Until there is actual justice for all citizens, there will be no peace. Eat the rich.

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      I’m not prepared to say people can’t deserve being gunned down based on socioeconomic status, but I am all for the rich getting their fair share of the gunning down. Preventing active murder or grievous bodily harm, harming children, etc.

      There is too much gunning down, and especially for unreasonable things, but I won’t lose sleep when those in power effecting and enforcing the injustice get theirs. The phrase “just desserts” exists for a reason.

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    It’s not shocking if you’ve had to deal with any sort of healthcare in this god forsaken shithole of a country.

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          Are many young people (25 or younger) actually involved in their parents finances? How many parents would actually speak to their younger kids about their medical/health care issues?

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            You should hope you never have to experience a parent suffer the health care system… mentally or physically. Assuming you’re not a monster you’d likely have a different opinion right now. It’s stupid to assume it’s like a parent telling a toddler how they file taxes…

            I saw my mother constantly get denied health care because her insurance wouldn’t cover her arthritis which was considered a “pre-existing condition”.

            I saw her suffer trying to get medication for migraines every month while Merck said nope.

            I saw democrats get rid of preexisting conditions with passage of ACA. I saw republicans lie about ACA claiming it’s economic demise…

            Demise never happened and republicans never once proposed anything better…

            So naturally…

            I saw my mom deny that any of this ever happened a few years later, that democrats never helped anyone and then she advocated for trump. I’ve seen her and others say democrats are the problem.

            I’ve seen a lot of weird shit…

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            20+ year olds helping their parents navigate the healthcare hellscape is something that is actually fairly common. My mother-in-law is a hospital social worker.

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      I imagine it’s from people who just don’t watch the news. They don’t know how evil that CEO was, so they blindly apply common sense.

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        That was my gut reaction right after it happened, since UHC is my insurance company. But I’m just disappointed people are either lack curiosity, lack empathy, or actively support the true evil here.

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    They also claim that they want more equality, universal healthcare, less student debt, etc. And then a ton of them proceeded to vote for Donald Trump. I can’t take anything they say seriously.

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    Americans have been trained to wish on the CEO the negative things that those CEOs have caused.

    Game CEO cancels or ruins an anticipated game? Wish on to them that something they value gets canceled.

    Car company CEO makes cars more expensive? Wish upon them financial trouble.

    Social media CEO invades your privacy? Wish on them someone to track their plane wherever it flies.

    But there exists a subset of companies where death is the outcome of a bad CEO, and the end consequence of encouraging an eye for an eye is what we just saw. Perhaps if a company can decide whether you live or die, the government should play some role in it. Then at least voters will at least have a stake in the governance.