Democrats today are more likely to say they want their party to become moderate than they were four years ago, according to a Gallup poll published Thursday. The survey, conducted in the first week of President Trump’s second term, gauged partisan preferences on the ideological direction of respondents’ respective parties. Among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents, 45 percent say they want their party to become more moderate, while 29 percent say they want the party to become more liberal, and 22 percent say they want the party to stay the same.
I straight don’t buy that these results accurately reflect the opinion of non boomer voters. If this is accurate then the country and the species are done for, we cannot continue on the path we’re currently on without radical change to the status quo whether thats what people want or not. This is make or break for the future and it looks like we’re all currently content to let it break even if it means the end.
Isn’t gallup one of those pollsters that still uses landline surveying? That’s got to skew the numbers.
Also people not being remotely politcally engaged doesn’t help much either.
“I vote democrat because the alternative are shitty and racist, but I am worried about this DEI, CRT, CBT, Trans stuff my weird uncle posted on Facebook”
Landline and cellphones but nobody I know, millennial or younger, answers phones anymore so your point is fair. Lol.
democrats are doing cock and ball torture?
They would have won the White House if they endorsed it more.
There are millions of Americans who really want a non-crazy conservative to vote for. There are millions of people who just want to have a non-crazy person win an election, so their idea is that the only way the opposition to crazy Republicans to be able to win over some of those people on the right is by moving closer to them. They just want to stop losing to the crazies. There are millions who are OK with gay people but hate that the government spends too much money on everything.
America is a very conservative country, and even the Democrats are basically very conservative.
Those people who complained that the Democrats would have beat Trump if they had just moved more left have no idea how much the rest of the country doesn’t feel like them.
Did you miss the bit where I said “whether thats what people want or not”? IF what you are saying is true then we’re all fucked already climate change is coming for all of us.
Did you miss the bit where you said,
I straight don’t buy that these results accurately reflect the opinion of non boomer voters.
And yes, we are straight fucked already.
As I keep telling people on here
The country is not that fucking left
I wish it was. God, I wish it was. But it’s not.
Denying reality is not helpful.
No no, I’m sure one of the world’s oldest polling firms is doing their job wrong. I, as a random Lemmy user, surely know more about poll stratification than they do.
It’s Gallup that’s wrong!!! /s
Is “Moderate” code for more to the right now?
It doesn’t get much more moderate than democrats for Christ sake!Is “Moderate” code for more to the right now?
“Moderate” means “closer to the other party” in US politics.
And the other party in this case is… well…
Except Republicans have been psychopaths for decades, and there is absolutely nothing moderate about nearing them.
When it’s used as you describe it’s a misnomer. Which should be VERY clear now that Republicans have moved towards fascism.
Who the fuck can argue that nearing fascism is moderate?
Media that use the terms this way need to be called out and ridiculed for it.It doesn’t change the fact that the people being polled are essentially saying they prefer the Democrat party to move more right.
Complaining about perceived misuse of terminology doesn’t change that fact.
I’m just amused how turning more fascist is considered moderate now in USA.
Here the Democrats would be right wing, and Republicans are so far right we don’t have anything even close.
There is nothing moderate in going to the right from Democrats by mostly any reasonable standard.
US politics are insane, and the rhetoric has shifted together with that insanity to help normalize the insanity, or because insanity is normalized.What is moderate? A position so far to the right it’s way more right wing than Reagan? Reagan would be a democrat today, and you claim the terminology is to say moderate is between the 2 parties, when one is already right wing, and the other is fascist, that is simply not true. It is technically and literally false to call that moderate.
If one party believes you should cut off the head for a simple minor theft, and the other only believe you should cut off the hand.
Would you then really accept it as moderate to cut off the leg??https://www.dictionary.com/browse/moderate
kept or keeping within reasonable or proper limits; not extreme, excessive, or intense:
Here even the Democrats are on the extreme right for failing to push for healthcare for all. Which is the ONLY reasonable stance, and adopted by every developed democracy except USA!! One of the richest countries in the world, yet with high poverty rates and homelessness. Because the country is extreme right, and now fascist.
Wo ist hier?
Europe, EU, Denmark.
There is no European party AFAIK that is so right wing psychos they want to end healthcare for all, and all European countries have it.I wish I lived in Scandinavia.
Among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents, 45 percent say they want their party to become more moderate, while 29 percent say they want the party to become more liberal, and 22 percent say they want the party to stay the same.
These words are meaningless. In many countries, to become more liberal is the same thing as becoming more moderate. It’s confusing to me because liberal and moderate mean one thing in the US and something else in the rest of the world. And I live in the US! After all these years, I still don’t quite understand what people mean by liberal, moderate, and conservative. Liberalism is an actual ideology with an actual definition, Conservativism is an actual ideology with an actual definition.
So, what do the American people want? If it’s some kind compromise between actual Liberalism and actual Conservativism, what would that look like, specifically? Which aspects of Liberalism do they want, and which aspects of Conservatism, and in what proportions? And what about ideologies other than Liberalism and Conservatism? Why are those two ideologies our only choices?
Oh wait, I already know the answer
These words are meaningless. In many countries, to become more liberal is the same thing as becoming more moderate. It’s confusing to me because liberal and moderate mean one thing in the US and something else in the rest of the world. And I live in the US! After all these years, I still don’t quite understand what people mean by liberal, moderate, and conservative.
In casual US discourse, liberal is left. In context, more moderate means becoming more right-wing.
