Vivian Jenna Wilson tells Teen Vogue she feels obliged to take stand for trans rights as Trump attacks community

Summary

Vivian Jenna Wilson, Elon Musk’s daughter, accused her father of giving a “definitely Nazi salute” at two rallies in January, calling his actions “fucking cringe.”

In an interview with Teen Vogue, she criticized Musk’s involvement in the Trump administration and advocated for trans rights, emphasizing the importance of gender-affirming care for minors.

Wilson, who transitioned as a teen, described Musk as cold and absent, and revealed she no longer associates with him or his family.

She also expressed fear over anti-trans legislation under Trump’s administration.

    • WaitThisIsntReddit@lemmy.world
      18·
      3 months ago

      He did it twice. With gusto. You’re clearly struggling to reconcile that your idol is a Nazi and you’ve been wrong to worship him, or you’re also a Nazi.

    • Takumidesh@lemmy.world
      13·
      3 months ago

      You may not be aware, but Nazis (both traditional and the neo variant) love dog whistles.

      Obscure and hidden symbolism is core to their ideologies.

      Nazis (and most hate groups in general) love doing things that are just innocent enough, but with a wink or a nudge, demonstrate clear intention.

      It’s quite easy to not do a nazi salute and when public speaking, politicians (and people who practice their public speaking skills in general) have traditionally been coached on what features may be construed as, just look at the traditional ‘non-threatening’ two finger point.

      Finally, I don’t think it really matters what it technically was or wasn’t, what matters is perception and reception.

      Edit: I want to add some concrete examples of nazi dog whistling and symbolism.

      Historically the numbers 88 have been used by neo Nazis to represent HH (8th letter of the alphabet) as a disguised way to say ‘heil Hitler’

      The numbers on their own don’t mean anything, but given additional context, behaviors, or related ideals, then an additional meaning can be found.

      This is often used as an intentional way to inform sympathizers to your position that you are on their side (for example a group at a political gathering) without overtly communicating your position to those opposed.

      Another example is skinheads (not sharps) wearing and lacing their boots in a certain way with specific color laces.

      Hitler himself was immensely into the occult and found hidden symbolism to be very powerful, it’s part of why he repurposed so much religious iconography.

    • Kvoth@lemmy.world
      10·
      3 months ago

      You’ve either drank the Kool aid too or you’re not paying attention if you think that’s the only reason people think he’s a Nazi

      • Monomate@lemm.ee
        210·
        3 months ago

        People will see what they want to see. Even if Elon discovered the cure to all types of cancer, people would still nitpick anything about him to justify their hate.

    • Coreidan@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      3 months ago

      It’s incredibly bizarre that there are people in the world defending this shit.

      It’s even more incredibly bizarre that anyone could actually look at that video and see anything other than a fucking nazi salute.

      People like you are why this world is turning to absolute shit. Just another cog in the wheel.

    • Cheems@lemmy.world
      7·
      3 months ago

      Watching the original video it absolutely looks like it even alone without Hitler right beside it. It did the first time and it has every time ever since that. I watched it live and immediately said, “what the fuck”

    • tomi000@lemmy.world
      6·
      3 months ago

      No person in their right mind would make such a gesture, especially not speaking in front of millions. It was not a 100% clear Hitlergruß. To me it seems pretty obvious that it was an intentional move to further divide the US population into people claiming he did a Nazi salute and those brushing it off as a random gesture, ridiculing the other side. Ragebaiting by doing a 99% nazi salute is not much better than doing an actual one.

      How come its mostly people who behave exactly like nazis who ‘accidentally’ make very similar gestures to nazi salutes? I wonder…

        • tomi000@lemmy.world
          8·
          3 months ago

          He did it again, just a second later.

          Also, a ‘gesture of thanks’ usually doesnt involve tensing up your whole body and stretching your right arm with the palm facing downwards. This is as unnatural of a gesture as it gets.

          • Monomate@lemm.ee
            29·
            3 months ago

            He bent his whole body to give a salute. It was quite off-center and awkward, not really like the nazi salute as seen on historical videos of Hitler, which is a much more deliberate and aligned hand motion in relation to the body. If Elon time traveled to Hitler rallies and did this salute, he’d be reprimanded for doing it all wrong.

        • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          3 months ago

          You sure are spending a lot of time on your apologia.

          Sometimes, like Nazi salutes- actions are much louder than words.

        • Lit@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 months ago

          You are right. Most neo Nazis will only make that nazi give heart out to hitler gesture only when caught up in the moment. when they lose control, their true nature is revealed, and they will even do it 2 or more times.

    • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
      31·
      3 months ago

      oh yes the “everyone that disagrees with me thinks im a nazi” comment, get over yourself, you know you are one. Also another saying if everyone is A B" around you, you most likely are. hence you are probably here because reddit banned you for the same reason you will be on most forums.