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Vivian Jenna Wilson, Elon Musk’s daughter, accused her father of giving a “definitely Nazi salute” at two rallies in January, calling his actions “fucking cringe.”

In an interview with Teen Vogue, she criticized Musk’s involvement in the Trump administration and advocated for trans rights, emphasizing the importance of gender-affirming care for minors.

Wilson, who transitioned as a teen, described Musk as cold and absent, and revealed she no longer associates with him or his family.

She also expressed fear over anti-trans legislation under Trump’s administration.

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    It’s mindblowing how anyone still genuinely thinks what he did was anything but.

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      Having been on several bar trivia teams, I can say that at least 80% of Americans know virtually nothing about history. I could imagine someone with only a vague familiarity with a Nazi salute just assuming there’s no way a fortune 500 CEO would actually do one, not recognizing how spot on of a Hitler impression that was.

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      It’s obvious deflection. Don’t engage. They have to convince themselves and by giving them the time of day they win.

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      It’s disgusting that people have to have this discussion at all.

      Who am I gonna believe? The right-wing choads who are gaslighting us about this, or my lying eyes?

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    To be honest, you’d have to be very stupid to belive otherwise.
    I suspect 90% of the people who want to give him the benefit of “doubt” when there actually is none, is very well aware of what he did.

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      They are.

      Everyone knows it was not one, but two, Nazi salutes.

      The people who won’t accept it are either trying to cover for their team, or are too full of pride to admit they support Nazis, or both.

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      True, but shed also particularly able to speak on his mens rea. She’s spoken openly about how even when she was young he was bigoted and cruel. So while many of us may have witnessed a man get radicalized by the right wing as he lost his damn mind which might lead some to think it was him being edgy or something, she’s able to say that no, he in his private life as a man who was merely rich was a massive shit stain.

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    It definitely was. He’s apartheid nepo baby. Autistic or not, he’s racist and a terrible asshole. Also a nazi.

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    a comment on reddit, said vivian had less gender affirming care than elon musk.

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      Elon and Trump’s actions are indeed more nationalist, but we should not confuse it with nazism, that had nationalism as one of its traits but was much more than that. The genocidal part is what makes them evil, not the nationalism part.

      If we take seriously the notion that nationalism = nazism, then China would qualify.

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    I saw a gif earlier that I can’t find. It has Elon’s seig heil salute that is perfectly timed to a group of Neo-Nazis executing the same salute. They were absolutely identical.

    Does anyone know where to find it?

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      For some reason, lemmy absolutely will not allow me to upload that one gif. Here’s some alternatives:

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    Wilson, who transitioned as a teen, described Musk as cold and absent, and revealed she no longer associates with him or his family.

    So he’s a sociopath. That checks out

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      He literally just said “empathy is weakness” the other day, I think it’s pretty clear he’s got some serious personality disorder. Narcissism and sociopathy both seem to fit him pretty well but I’m just a blue-collar guy.

      Idk one way or another he’s a piece of shit and I firmly believe one of the most evil people kicking, if anyone can be said to be evil, it’s him.

      And I’ve played a LOT of evil in DnD over the years. Both sides of the screen. I feel like I’ve got a pretty good grasp of the concept. If he was just a character in literature I’d go “damn, that’s a good villain”, but he is, sadly, alive and real.

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      hes the guy that uses SON, who he name X-2AE,etc/ and uses him as a human shield.

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      All Republicans. My idiot sister. She’s like “I watched it” as if that’s proof it wasn’t? If the white superiority groups are applauding your actions, you’re in the wrong. That quieted her down but it didn’t change her mind. She thinks we’re all over reacting.

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      My brother. He thinks it was just a normal heartwarming gesture and people are just finding reasons to hate on him. I had a… Pretty bad argument with him over it.

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      I personally know at least a few people that honest to god think it was a wave. You cannot reason with these people.

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    In the past two months, while some of y’all motherfuckers have been busy arguing over whether it was a Nazi salute or not, this guy and his orange fucko have been dismantling the Constitution in real time. But sure—carry on. This debate is clearly way more important.

    Goddamnit.

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    Do we really need her opinion on this? I mean we all know what it was, I mean we might as well ask the baker at this point and make an article?

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      Her statement isn’t for you. It’s for all the Trumpanzees that are still in denial.