• FMT99@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
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    10 months ago

    Presidential pardons are one of those incredibly stupid things that show in the end America just wants a king.

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    10 months ago

    I realize this is probably a silly question, but can he even do that? The power of pardon only extends to federal crimes. The state of Michigan could still press charges and there is fuck all Dumb Dumb can do about it. Unless I miss something here.

    (This is ignoring whatever his cronies at state level can do to obfuscate the situation of course)

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        I’m not sure if you’ve been paying attention, but federal courts have been stopping him left and right. The most common situation has been Trump signs an EO or takes other action, federal court blocks said action, administration whines and moans but is forced to go along with the ruling.

        You can count on one hand the times this administration has successfully ignored a court order.

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          You can count on one hand the times this administration has successfully ignored a court order.

          That’s still one hand too many.

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          10 months ago

          They’ve also been ignoring those judges. I 100% believe, especially with the immigration stuff, that he’s still carrying on what they ordered the administration not to do, only quieter.

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            The most high-profile case of ignoring the judges has been the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case, where the ruling came when he was already en route. The courts have also said the administration had to take all reasonable actions to facilitate his return, or words to that effect, which they’ve surely not done.

            Aside from that, in what other instances have they successfully ignored court rulings? I’m sure there have been a few, but not many.

            In regards to this particular thread, a pardon of state crimes doesn’t mean anything because no one would listen to it. States run themselves when it comes to criminal justice. Short of marching the military in and causing an actual civil war, there’s no method for enforcing that.

            It’s important not to doom. Despair is the enemy. Stay positive but stay vigilant.

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        10 months ago

        If he doesn’t have the legal powers to do this, he’ll pressure the people who do.

        If they’re charged at the state level the “people who do” is Democratic governor Gretchen Whitmer. You may recognize the name as the person they plotted to kidnap.

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    10 months ago

    He laying the groundwork to be president again. He’s showing that people that try to overthrow the govt again has his support.

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    Weren’t 12 out of the 14 people plotting this working for the FBI? Like…a dozen agents were entrapping 2 guys?