New details of IV team’s attempts to find a vein shared by Pike’s lawyer ‘shocked and disturbed’ practitioners

Medical experts have expressed shock at the apparent incompetence shown by Tennessee’s execution team during the failed lethal injection of Christa Pike, the prisoner who survived a normally fatal dose of pentobarbital, which they say would be considered medical malpractice in any other setting.

New details emerged on Thursday of how Tennessee’s intravenous (IV) team struggled for almost an hour to set up a line into Pike’s arms through which she would be administered the fatal dose of sedative. A blow-by-blow account was released in legal proceedings from Pike’s lawyer, Randy Spivey, who was present inside the death chamber at her 30 September failed execution.

The technical procedures attempted by the four unidentified members of the IV team as they tried to find a vein, as described by Spivey, provoked alarm among medical experts. They said the standards applied appeared to fall glaringly short of anything that would be deemed acceptable in a medical environment.

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    They should be blacklisted from even cleaning a dentist office’s toilet. Being anywhere near an execution should be equivalent of having patient SA on their record.

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    As someone who used to place IVs into neonatal veins, this is fucking atrocious.

    Any phlebotomist worth their salt is taught that you NEVER run an IV if it doesn’t flush. That’s literally week one shit!

    I disagree with the death penalty in general. But this is just beyond anything I can comprehend. Four separate so called medical specialists just set aside their so called training to torture a woman.

    This is deplorable.

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    I’m guessing no licensed doctor or nurse or medicine practitioner of any sorts would have wanted to take place in that, so they took whatever muppets they could find?

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      There are doctors who take their Hypocritic Oath more seriously than their Hippocratic Oath

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      Your average phlebotomist will be far better than most doctors and nurses at putting in a line

      They easily could have found a phlebotomist who needed the extra money. This is simply incompetence. Unbelievable levels of it

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        They easily could have found a phlebotomist who needed the extra money.

        Is it actually all that easy to find medical professionals who don’t have qualms about killing people as a side gig from their day job of healing people?

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    1. ‘Shocked’ would indicate an electric chair is possible

    2. im sure every cell block had 3 or more people that could find a vein in under a minute

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    This woman committed a crime as a teenager then spent 20 years in prison waiting to be murdered by the state. How barbaric. Abolish prisons

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      Should have been put to death right after the sentence. Read up on what she did she’s a fucking monster and deserves to die.

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        Don’t care, the government shouldn’t be in the business of executions. You can always, to a lesser or greater extent, make things right with unlawful detention and charging an innocent person. You can’t un-kill a person if you get things wrong.

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    Why the hell don’t we just swap their air supply with nitrogen? No medical knowledge needed, no pharmacy needed. Considering the number of engineers in the defense industry they don’t exactly have a Hippocratic oath. Most of air is nitrogen so your body doesn’t fight it. You just feel stupid and loopy and high like losing cabin pressure in a airplane. CO2 or Helium would work as well.

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      Nitrogen is preferred. Your body can detect elevated CO2 levels and make you start to gasp breath. Helium would make the person’s voice go squeaky. I don’t think anyone involved wants the condemned shouting in a Mickey Mouse voice before they die.

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      Sometime, as a little treat for yourself, see if you can huff the whiff of nearly pure CO² gasthat forms in the neck of a coke bottle when it is first opened.

      That little whisp of vapor.

      It’s neat to see how carbon dioxide feels to breathe.

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      We think this would humane, but we dont actually know is my understanding.

      Not that this was humane either.

      Edit: i think you meant CO, not CO2.