• Etterra@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I wonder how much money would be saved if they stopped means testing the poor and spent all their money helping people instead of paying cops to terrorize them.

    • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Cops in SF don’t do shit. They effectively went on strike a couple of years ago.

      This has had both good and bad effects.

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        1 year ago

        SF has cops? Jk but yeah, Its so obvious that the people making comments like that don’t live here. The rage bait is strong with this topic for sure.

  • gmtom@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    People vote left wing

    Left wing policies make city better

    Better city attracts more people

    More people increases costs

    Increased costs filter for rich people

    Rich people vote authoritarian.

    • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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      You skipped the essential NIMBY step between these two:

      Better city attracts more people

      More people increases costs

      Costs scale way out of proportion with population because of artificial constraints imposed by those lucky enough to be here first.

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      1 year ago

      That is a pretty sad turnout. The votes reflect the choices of about 92K registered democrats, vs. roughly 13K registered rebublicans though, so it’s not like this is some right wing takeover.

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    Drug treatment is important, yes, but making it a precondition for benefits will absolutely hurt the most vulnerable. If there was actually enough affordable housing available for everyone that needs it, there would be far less of a need for this kind of policy. It is well documented that providing housing before anything else sets people up for success. If someone has been living on the streets and suddenly has housing available, their life will improve so drastically thanks to the job and social opportunities that will become available, also making it less likely that drug abuse will continue.

    This seems like a cop out to me. Just build houses for fuck’s sake.

    Breed has been on the wrong side of so many issues. Most recently she made an incredibly tone-deaf statement denouncing the city council’s vote against the genocide in Gaza. I’m done with her.

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        For one thing, it’s extremely difficult to force someone out of an addiction. You usually have to want to quit in order for that to be an option. Otherwise you have to do something like torture them by making them go through a possibly extremely painful cold turkey withdrawal.

        So I’d say torturing the most vulnerable would hurt them.

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          But what makes you think that’s what they’ll do? Would helping someone with an addiction towards treatment really ‘torture’ them?

          Breed’s office has said the measure was intentionally designed to be flexible on the treatment component. Treatment options could range from out-patient services to a prescription for buprenorphine, a medication used to treat addiction. They noted it doesn’t include a requirement for participants to remain sober, recognizing that people often lapse in recovery and shouldn’t be kicked out of the program for a slip-up.

          • evergreen@lemmy.world
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            Thank you! People here getting all riled up without even reading the damn article. What else is new?

      • BertramDitore@lemmy.world
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        Thanks for the heads up. Yeah, I’m cautiously hopeful, but still quite skeptical they’ll get it right. These measures often sound good, but implementation is key.

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    The NIMBY class will always project its insecurity more greatly than the remainder of the populace.

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    Ah so the real estate developers are finally ready to finish their gentrification efforts. They must’ve forced out the last remaining owners in the area so now they can crack down and turn it into overpriced bullshit

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    So if they test positive for drugs, that means you’ll set them up with support programs, right? Treat the underlying issue, correct? Not just write them off and let the problem grow even more… right???

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    These Trump areas need to just fall into the ocean. It is sick what they want to do to poor people.

    • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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      San Francisco, California is now a Trump area? What the fuck are you talking about?

      And why does your gibberish have so many upvotes??

      • evergreen@lemmy.world
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        Seriously. Who the fuck is up voting this completely detached from reality shit? This is honestly a really bad look for Lemmy. It reminds me of “The_Donald” subreddit from back in the day. Different end of the political spectrum but behaving exactly the same.