• cosmicrookie@lemmy.world
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    Its no wonder Amazon wanted to build there. Poor people make for cheap labour. It might even have been a good deal for Mississippi if they had forced Amazon to allow unions there for getting a free pass!

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    And in 5 years they are going to automate the entire thing providing precisely 0 jobs to the local economy.

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      That would be pretty rough. Outcompete all the other employers in town so they all go out of business and then automate all the jobs.

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        I mean, that’s literally what Amazon does. Anyone remember diapers.com? Amazon lowered their prices on diapers, losing at least $200 million, to stop diapers.com’s growth. When the business started losing money, Amazon bought them, and then shut them down.

        Then immediately raised their prices on diapers. I fucking hate Amazon, like, literally refuse to purchase anything from them. I’d rather pay 3 times the price then give Amazon a penny for literally anything.

        They’re already implementing automation and robots into their warehouses, once one of their engineers making six figures (compared to Bezos’s billions) comes up with a way to automate delivery, you can bet your ass and mine they’ll drop all of their subcontracting delivery companies with zero notice or fucks given. I’m amazed they haven’t gone after chewy.com or barkbox, but maybe they are.

        I remember back in like 2015-2017, when I finally swore off Amazon, I posted on Reddit asking what other shopping sites people recommended that weren’t Amazon, and was downvoted and chastised for even asking because not wanting to suck Amazon’s Dick-of-Convenience wasn’t comprehendible, and look where that fucking got us.

        Sorry, this is a long response to your comment, and that’s the end of my rant, but just… Fuck Amazon, to the moon and back… Twice.

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          So someone was already becoming successful but sold out to Amazon and it’s Amazon you’re mad at?

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            Amazon undercut them, stole their customers, bought them, and then shut them down.

            How is that “becoming successful but sold out?” Amazon has their hands in so many baskets, from tools and everyday household items to government defense contracts and everything in between, they could afford to lose money on one niche area for probably decades. In contrast, diapers.com sold: diapers and their related accessories, and did not have billions stowed away to undercut Amazon’s prices that they already couldn’t compete with.

            Fuck Amazon and everything they have done to the world.

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        That’s the plan. And they are barely being subtle about it. https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/operations/how-amazon-deploys-robots-in-its-operations-facilities https://www.geekwire.com/2023/amazon-unveils-sequoia-warehouse-robotics-system-and-starts-testing-agilitys-digit-robot/ https://www.engadget.com/amazon-says-its-new-ai-powered-robots-reduce-fulfilment-time-by-25-percent-122517342.html

        There are so many more. The end goal is fully automated fulfillment canters and automated drone delivery. The company who currently employs more people than any other in the country is 100% trying to eliminate the “labor” line item on their balance sheet.

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        They still need consumers though right? I mean they can’t automate that away can they? Cause I consume a lot of stuff and it takes a fair amount of effort, also it is like the only thing I am really good at.

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    data centers have low personell overhead don’t they? Didn’t some state nix their data center incentives precisely because of how few jobs they bring vs how much utilities they consume.

    The only reason I can think of building it there is easy access to water.

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      Yeah I think it’s funny that the bill specifically says that they have to add 50 jobs a year but it doesn’t say 50 high paying jobs just 50 jobs. If they hire 50 janitors a year that fulfills their quota. And, not to put too fine a point on it but Mississippi’s population is over 2,961,279 and 19.1%(the number of people under the poverty line in Mississippi) is 565,604. 50 jobs a year isn’t going to do fuckall for that state. But I sure as hell bet that the Republicans in there State legislature are going to have their pockets well lined.

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        No comment on the accuracy of their prediction but they claim:

        The project is the largest economic development project in Mississippi’s entire history and is expected to create at least 1,000 “high-paying, high-tech” jobs by 2034.

        If that comes to pass, that’s a big deal and this type of facility and these jobs do not just walk away when the incentives end

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          1,000 jobs for people they will probably ship in from out of state to meet the qualifications they need. Versus over 500,000 in the state who are poverty stricken.

          Oh yeah that’s a real good deal. /s

          These kinds of projects are great when they bring in tax revenue that will benefit the state and allow them to distribute to the most unfortunate… but I guess that’s not going to happen since they’re getting a tax break of 100%.

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    But seriously when are we gonna eat Bezos? I’m a vegetarian but I’ll take a bite of the billionaire to show my commitment. I’ll bring coleslaw.

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    By the way, if Amazon is doing a project for them, that actually means they’re not just paying Zero in taxes, they’re also getting paid by the state.

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    The article is great for outrage clicks but seems to be missing the point

    • Mississippi is a poor state that needs to attract jobs and taxes
    • Mississippi offered a temporary incentive to a large company to attract jobs and taxes. This is very common
    • Large companies like bribes. Of course it will take advantage of a good deal

    So this is business as usual, and the real argument is how likely that temporary incentive is to pay off for Mississippi, and did Mississippi offer too much