• FlowVoid@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It’s not just billionaires. If you put any amount of money into the S&P500 in Jan 1 2017, it would be worth more than twice as much today.

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      But is it really fair that a person with 50 million can turn that into 100 million, whereas most people can turn at most $5,000 into $10,000?

      Earning $5,000 over 7 years is basically worthless.

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          Using median makes it a loaded statistic skewed in favor of the minority (in this case, the wealthy).

          Over half the country is living paycheck-to-paycheck, so that median number is already in the ‘well-off’ category by default, making them irrelevant to the main point of discussion.

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            You have it backwards. The mean, not the median, is skewed by outliers.

            If there are ten people in a room with $10 and one person with $1,000,000, the median is $10 whereas the mean is ~$90,000.

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            You might not know what median means (math pun!).

            Averages or Means are skewed by outliers, not the median. The median is just picking the middle number in a list of numbers. There is no skewing possible. If you have 99 people making $1 per year and one person making $1B per year, the median is $1. The average/mean is $1,000,000.99 which is way skewed.

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        But is it really fair that a person with 50 million can turn that into 100 million

        Yes.

        And since that can only happen by investing that amount into the economy, it’s wisely encouraged by the system, versus putting the 50 million in a vault somewhere.

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          The fact that you can’t see how this is a huge flaw in, at the very least, the American form of capitalism is sad.

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            You think it’s sad because you’re deeply ignorant. Do you also think that if the $5 baseball card you bought becomes worth $100, that that means you’ve stolen $95? lol

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              No, I don’t also think that.

              I do, however, think that I didn’t insult you, so that insult was absolutely not warranted.

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        Liquid assets are a type of wealth. For many people, liquid assets make up the biggest part of their wealth.

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          No, they don’t. Liquid assets don’t increase in value. If they had $1 in cash seven years ago, it would be worth less than that today due to inflation.

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            Stocks are liquid assets. They can increase in value.

            T-bills are also liquid assets. They can also increase in value.

            Savings accounts and money market accounts are also liquid assets. They can also increase in value.

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          When you’re a billionaire, most of your net worth comes from businesses you own, not liquid assets.

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            Billionaires are far more likely to own part of a business than 100% of a business. And if you own stocks, then you too own part of a business.

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            When you’re a billionaire, most of your net worth comes from businesses assets you own (and can borrow against without having to claim the loans as income), not liquid assets.

            FTFY