• dogslayeggs@lemmy.world
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        The worldwide impact of these new drugs could be kind of amazing. They don’t just have you burn more calories or not digest food you eat. They completely change how people think about food. When obesity is an epidemic that causes all kinds of health problems, imagine how much less we’d spend on healthcare if more people were healthier weights.

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          Can’t have that. Might hurt profits somewhere. A big insurance company here just removed one of the drugs from coverage inexplicably.

          Makes you wonder why despite a doctor prescribing it for weight loss, the insurance company can go ahead and just, nope out. and what motivation do they have to keep people fat?

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            They don’t want to pay out for expensive drugs. They can’t be profitable if they pay for the healthcare your doctor prescribes for you.

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        A good friend of mine is on them. He physically gets sick if he overeats. He has event missed work because he was home vomiting. He learned fast to eat small amounts only. We used to have lunch about once a month. We have not gone out since he started on them.

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        And that’s cool and all, but maybe it would be better to spend the time and money on providing better food options in the first place.

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        As a lot of people here know, I am the last person to be saying this, but if it was possible to take a pill to avoid paying for groceries, it’s probably worth it.

        Just don’t end up living on Ensure and V8 because it’s just as expensive, trust me.

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    I’m on Ozempic. I eat way less. Many restaurants offer portion sizes that are far, far too big for a person NOT on weight loss drugs let alone one who is. I often ask for a half or a quarter portion because I don’t want to waste the rest of the food. I always say I will pay full price but I don’t want all the food. Some restaurants give me a break on the price. Others don’t. When you’re faced with such huge portions it’s just easier to avoid restaurants.

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        I do when I go to a restaurant close to home. I travel for work and can’t take leftovers back to my hotel most of the time. I’ve found that most restaurants are good about cutting portion sizes and that sometimes when I ask for half because I can’t eat a whole portion but offer to pay full price they will give me a break.

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        There are some very rare possible serious side effects. I’m not sure what the numbers are. No one is being forced to take it.

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          I’m a caregiver for a diabetic person and Medicare decided at the new year that they would not cover the medications he’s been doing very well on because they (state insurance, not his doctors) want him on Ozempic instead. They let him keep his insulin, but Victoza, Pandin and Jardiance are gone. We’re having a very hard time keeping his blood sugar steady, he’s getting dangerous lows that he’s not capable of communicating to us, and higher spikes than I’ve seen in the four years I’ve cared for him, so we’re testing more frequently and no, they will not cover the additional testing supplies, that’s out of pocket now.

          So, yes. Some people on Medicare are being forced to take it.

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            The US medical system is grotesque.

            I am taking Ozempic, Metformin, and Jardiance but I live in a civilized country where my doctor makes the decisions about what drugs I am taking and talks to me about his recommendations before prescribing.

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          It’s a diabetes drug and weight loss is just a fun side effect. I don’t know about any shortage though.

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            Sounds like it’s functioning as a means of reducing the development of type 2 diabetes. Mission failed successfully?

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              I am reminded of Fen-Phen, which was big in the late 90s.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenfluramine/phentermine

              Everyone and their mother got on it and lost tons of weight. Then suddenly it came out that, shockingly, drugs have side effects and some can hurt your heart. Suddenly there’s a flurry of lawsuits and a perfectly good drug is removed from the market because the public abused it.

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                This could be just like that. If it is more harmful than it is already known to be, then the widespread adoption should highlight that faster.

                If there are supply issues, as others have mentioned, widespread adoption and profitability will hopefully cause an increase in production.

                It would have to be pretty bad for you to be worse than the detrimental health effects of being 300lbs+

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                  That’s where I was on the whole fen-phen thing. I recall speaking to a couple doctors (in casual conversation) who thought that the lawsuits were stupid and that it was, indeed, good for the morbidly obese to have options like this. Me, personally, I believe that a bunch of lawyers got dollar signs in their eyes and decided to go after the big bucks.

                  I guess the FDA can be persuaded with enough pressure.

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    Spend your money on weight loss drugs so you don’t have any money to eat out.