She was dropping her son off as school. Her son was still in the car. She drove into the bus lane accidentally. The officer’s response was that he was “scared she was going to run someone over” … while her son who goes to the school is in the car. You could verify that in a 5 second radio call to the front office.
We need to re-think policing in general if cops are allowed to enforce their worst fears instead of seeing what’s actually happening.
I don’t believe for a second that that cop was actually afraid. This reads like he is a bully who grasps at every opportunity to pounce on someone who is in a weaker position than him. Classic bully behaviour that will continue as long as he gets away with it.
“This lawsuit is brought to prevent this from ever happening again”
In the country where cop abuse happens all the time, and nothing ever stops or prevents it.
And we (as a whole) worship the police, especially thru idealized shows like Law & Order.
I’ve seen a bunch of rights violations on Law & Order.
My first thought after reading that sentence was “I have some bad news for her…”
Edit: fixed dad to bad.
Does she not know who her dad is? Or maybe you’re referring to the child’s father?
It was bad dad news.
Body worn cameras stop a lot of cop abuse (and also false accusations of abuse) since in the aftermath of some incident the footage often speaks for itself. As is the case here.
How even? Are the cops supposed to search the ground first? Like seriously, regardless of the circumstances leading to the arrest, how to prevent that?
Did you even read the article? She accidentally drove the wrong way in a bus lane. Her son was still in the car. The police officer freaked out and instead of calmly talking to her, they called backup and the officer who came freaked out even worse and slammed her to the ground on an ant hill and then ignored her saying that ants were boring her face. You don’t see any point where this could have been avoided?
So let’s break this down.
You’re assuming that this was an accident and that he didn’t do it on purpose (he absolutely did). Humoring this theory though, let’s consider your question:
**Q: **Should a cop survey his surroundings, including the ground, before restraining someone?
**A: **Yes, of course, you would be a fucking idiot not to. Furthermore, forcing a person into some sort of hazard and injuring them, even unintentionally, is a problem to be avoided.
How to prevent that?
Your idea seems to be to do nothing at all so I’ll start by saying that’s fucking stupid.
Some might say to abolish law enforcement, but honestly, with compassionate police training emphasizing de-escalation, harm reduction, and civil service, we might actually have an ethical system someday. Also by firing cops on the first offense for use of excess force and blacklisting them from law enforcement for years requiring re-certification to ever become a cop again. And abolishing police unions and narrowing legal immunity for on-duty cops so that they don’t get away with maiming and killing people. And not funneling all of the excesses of the U.S. Military Industrial Complex into the hands of every suburban police department so that they can act as a standing army in our turnkey dictatorship.
Since you are the only person that actually replies: Has nothing to do with the case at hand, as I said (or the person I reply to) generally speaking. Since thinking abstract is hard, here an example: There was an armed robbery, they got the person cornered, one officer gets ready to charge him in order to disarm. This works. Person now on the ground. Face is wherever it happened to land. How to avoid that? Is that possible?
My guy this lady was driving in a bus lane at a school, not armed robbery. What the fuck.
How can you think that I specifically talk about this case? And not an example for why this would not always be possible?
Mmmm, boot
If you take someone into your custody via an arrest, you are then responsible for their wellbeing. This is common sense.
Imagine if someone is in the middle of a shallow river getting arrested. Would it be okay to hold their head underwater while you are restraining them? Of course not.
The officer is responsible for making sure that the suspect is not put into harms way during the course of having them in their custody. If they fail that very basic expectation, they should not be in law enforcement period.
Yes, cops are supposed to check the ground they are shoving someone’s face into to prevent injury to that person. Maybe not shove any nonviolent faces into the ground at all? But that is too much to ask, I guess.
You can’t be serious
I suppose looking at the ground is beyond the intelligence of most pigs…
bro even you don’t believe you’ve asked an actual question here
Kindly go put your face on a fire ant nest, and then come back and tell us how the cop shouldn’t have moved her once she yelled about the fire ants.
The nests can sometimes be hard to spot, so I’m not voting one way or another on that. But basic human decency says, if you accidentally put someone on a fire ant nest, you move them asap once you notice.
And if she struggles because of the ants and moves around, she gets beaten, shot with a heart attack machine, and/or shot with a gun, then charged with resisting arrest
or recklessly doped with ketamine
Which apparently is legal and aok according to the recent judgment
even if they overdose you, you cant do anything about it. unless youre rich maybe, as with all facets of the “justice” system
Which judgement are you talking about? In my state, the cops and paramedics were all charged and found guilty
Look it’s just really difficult to get paid time off as a cop.
“resisting arrest without violence”
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Peaceful protesting only works for so long.
Commander Data discusses terrorism with captain Picard.
Note the prediction for the “Irish Unification of 2024”
ACAB but I don’t agree with vigilantism.
Even if you could get away with it, it’s only a matter of time before some vigilante decides that they too like the cops are the law and starts abusing people.
I imagine a bunch of people dress as green arrow running around yelling “YOU’VE FAILED THIS CITY” and I’m not entirely opposed to it.
Every time there’s a civilian review board it gets undermined by the police and politicians (who rely on the police unions to stay in power).
You’re probably not wrong
The cruelty is the point. Police are not to protect the people. FTP
police job #1 - protect the police. in us vs them, they joined the gang
Clearly if she had just complied, those ants wouldn’t have bitten her.
Now she’s charged with 50,000 charges of harming a police ant.
You can’t reform or fix a collective of abusers and evil people. ACAB.
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America is such a violent country. No one comes out unscathed from this madness. Police fears citizens, citizens fear police. Only the gangs and criminals are the winners.
And the average American defends this behavior. Sickening.
Average voter blah blah, that’s why we can’t have nice things. I hate elitism but it’s hard to ignore mundane reality.
This is why education is so important. It’s what separates us from wild beasts.
No, your complacency and unwillingness to press the status quo is the exact thing allowing for Palestinians to be murdered.
But you go ahead and try to feel like you’re doing good. It’s the American way, to look the other way.
Is the lemmy swarmed with bots already? I am not even American and it is wrong to accuse whole country of something. I don’t even do that to Russians or certainly not Chinese even though their governments are way more evil.
I suspect you have some agenda or maybe even are paid in rubles. Weird to see here I thought no geopolitical actors would bother.
Found the bot.
No u
Policing in the UK is based on the principle of public trust and approval. i.e Peelian principles. That doesn’t mean there aren’t terrible racist cops or thugs in the ranks because there are, but generally it means cops aren’t on power trips, recognise they are the public and there to serve the public, not just arrest people, and they also exercise discretion and common sense. Again, not perfect and there are rotten apples, but there is that ethos in policing.
I think that is lacking in US forces. They’re more like a civil military, separate from the public in mentality and adversarial. That said, I think US cops are also burdened with societal problems that shouldn’t be theirs to deal with - mentally ill, homeless, addiction, guns. I’ve seen enough “officer involved shootings” to realise most were justified in the moment. More than half are straight up felons getting into gun fights with cops. Others are gray though - e.g. a crazy homeless dude pulls a knife and charges a cop and of course they shoot the guy - which is justified - but why did society care so little that it came to this? Money spent on programs for addiction, homelessness and mentally ill would pay off in terms of less criminality and less shootings. As would changing policing to be more Peelian in nature.
Santa Fe, there’s not going to be a Christmas parade this year. Now you know why.
Also those Waterworks upgrades - you can forget those.
I’d sue them into insolvency and take the pensions of the entire department.
