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Wilshire@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 11 months ago

Supreme Court strikes down Trump-era ban on bump stocks, gun accessories used in 2017 Vegas massacre

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Supreme Court strikes down Trump-era ban on bump stocks, gun accessories used in 2017 Vegas massacre

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Wilshire@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 11 months ago
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A Texas gun shop owner challenged the ban, arguing the Justice Department wrongly classified the accessories as illegal machine guns.
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  • FireTower@lemmy.world
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    The TLDR of the opinion is that they held the BATFE acted outside of statutory authority, acting as the legislature making new law with the administrative policy.

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      So they can approve the sales, but can’t take it back?

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        They were found to not be machine guns per the statutory definition. So they can’t arrest people for having one (unless a new law is passed). Prior to the BATFE’s policy change they didn’t ‘approve the sales’ more so they didn’t bar the sales.

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    Here goes another lesson we never learned

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    Twaz the way it was always going to go. There is very specific wording for what is a machine gun, and a bump stock did not meet it.

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      There is very specific wording for what is a machine gun, and a bump stock did not meet it.

      Its far from specific, which is why this went so high in the courts. The wording has ambiguity in it.

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    Biden needs campaign ads calling Trump out for passing unconstitutional anti-gun legislation.

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      As we all know, confronting Republicans with their hypocrisy will force them to reevaluate their positions.

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    Are we going to tackle the dumbass pistol brace fiasco next?

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      Mock v Garland is the case you want to follow.

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        What’s to follow though? ATF or DoJ are not going to challenge any of the ruling, especially after this case. It’ll remain on the federal register, but stayed from enforcement indefinitely

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    Bump stocks are largely irrelevant since the invention of Hellfire Triggers:

    It’s essentially a “bent piece of metal”. I don’t see how you could control that.

    https://youtu.be/eUFkh7QKs1Q

    Which can even be applied to pistols:

    https://youtu.be/teoGHEPqd04

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      Fuck it. Let’s go back to bolt actions. See them try to machine the spring, magazine well, and a whole new bolt.

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        See, you kid… buuuut…

        https://youtu.be/Wa6OrbwXFWI

        https://youtu.be/BOvoiXGUuYg

        https://youtu.be/9WudGlIlqEk

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          Oh I know but those mods at least take a serious machine shop. Not a bent piece of metal.

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            You’d be surprised:

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      Hellfire trigger manipulator demonstration

      On an unrelated note, here are clips of people bump firing pistols and M1 Garands

      M1 Garand #1

      M1 Garand #2

      M1 Garand #3

      M1 Garand #4

      Mini14

      Pistol #1

      Pistol #2

      Pistol #3

      Pistol #4

      Pistol #5

      Pistol #6

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      Pass the smoked pork pls

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      Some people honed a technique that does what a bump stock does without one. It’s all really inaccurate obviously, but also obviously horrific for soft target crowds.

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        Yup, all in how loose a grip you’re comfortable with.

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    Did the truth ever come out around this shooting? The whole thing seemed very suspicious and the news story seemed to go away pretty quickly compared to other similar events.

    Or I’m an ostrich and just completely missed everything to do with it.

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      I don’t know what “truth” needs to be found. Shooter’s dad was a diagnosed psychopath on the FBI most wanted list, seems like a case of apple not falling far from the tree.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/las-vegas-shooter-s-father-was-bank-robber-wanted-fbi-n806861

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      I mean the rate of fire was way higher than even a bump stock would allow and the number of shots fired would have required way more magazines than was found with the guy. Largest mass shooting in history and we have no motive, no explanation, and no resolution.

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        This is my point. There is no motive. No explanation, nothing.

        Personally, I don’t buy the “dude went crazy” story with all the preparation that he did.

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      I think the media waxes and wanes on their discipline about whether to give too much attention to high profile incidents, to tamp down copycats who are “inspired” by the “glory”.

      That said, I don’t think anything was really hidden from us or you. A guy flipped out and did a horrible thing, there’s probably not that much to say about it.

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    So how many “gifts” have the gun lobby given them this time?

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    That’s crazy… What’s next, are they going to start letting us shoulder our pistols? (Asking for a friend)

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    I don’t think the vile filth will understand what this all really means until someone mows them down.

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