That’s exactly what I will expect him to say, right up until he leaves.
Biden definitely is thinking about Johnsons disastrous late departure from the race in 1968 leading to brawls on the convention floor and competing slates of delegates that ultimately led to Humphrey getting nominated. His loss was blamed on the chaos at the convention.
if he leaves at all it wouldn’t be right before the convention.
This can’t go all the way to the convention, because they made the convention so late. They actually have to make the formal nomination before the convention, in time to meet Ohio’s deadline.
The only path forward is for Harris to take over the nomination. This is far easier if Biden resigns totally. He can say he’s doing it for medical reasons, even if all he has is a chronic case of notgonnawinatall, complicated by inflammation of the opeds.
I was thinking about Ohio too. Plus the lawsuits the Heritage Foundation is already loading to keep Biden on the ballot.
But if he resigns, it would likely make things easier.
I’m still not convinced he is going to do that though.
Yup. You need to project complete confidence until the moment you drop out, once you say “This is a hugely important decision, the hardest one I’ve ever had to make, so I’m taking my time” Boom you have lost control and it’s over.
However it appears the writing is on the wall at this point. The next question is, once he decides to no longer run should he resign? If he isn’t up for the job of running how does he instill confidence that he can remain president? Plus it hands the nomination to Kamala no question.
I could see trying to spin it as “As an elder statesman, I don’t have it in me to simultaneously run a national campaign and govern the country, so I’ll be putting 100% of my focus on finishing out my term and passing the torch to the next generation of blah blah blah.”
If we used a voting system like Ranked Choice voting, it wouldn’t matter! Biden could run all he wants and we could vote for someone else and if they didn’t win… our vote would get transferred to the next in line (in this example biden).
That’s probably why we’ll never get ranked choice voting. It could mean a win for the general public in electing who we actually want, instead of what the establishment forces on us.
Then you’ll be remembered as the egotistical, arrogant piece of shit that doomed our Republic when you had the last best chance to save it. Like RBG but worse.
The Franz von Papen of his time.
Good.
This is just the “I won’t vote for Biden because Israel refuses to sign a ceasefire” bullshit all over again.
Notice how literally none of these people have any problem whatsoever with any of Trump’s gaffes?
They have no problem whatsoever with Trump’s policies. They have no problem whatsoever with project 2025. They have no problem at all that Donald Trump is 79 years old.
But they have a huge fucking problem with the fact that Joe Biden is two and a half years older than Donald Trump.
You would think if they actually gave a damn about the welfare of the country they would be concerned about Donald Trump in the least, yet crickets.I think it might be a bit of a bold assumption that everyone who thinks Biden is too old to do an effective job and should step aside is a huge Trump supporter.
There are plenty of people who hate Trump with a passion that thinks Biden isn’t up to the task of winning this election.
And I’m sure that’s not who they’re talking about. We all know there are many people her that suggest that no one vote for Biden. I’m sure most can name them.
Yes, this is scary, the media are basically all working for Trump, even those who claim the opposite. But they are falling for the Trump foghorn, just as much as any average Joe, where the media are supposed to be professionals and above that.
Falling for NOTHING the trump campaign is going to give the media millions of dollars for advertising spots. The media have a vested interest in keeping the horse race going.
“I won’t vote for Biden because Israel refuses to sign a ceasefire” bullshit
Fun fact: support in the form of weapons and political cover from the governments of the UK, Germany, and ESPECIALLY the US is why the fascist apartheid regime hasn’t been FORCED to stop the genocide several months ago.
He knows this and even though the majority of his prospective voters are IMPLORING him to stop participating in a genocide in their name, even though he KNOWS that it’s likely to cost him the election and even though he KNOWS that it’s likely to be the last one ever if he does lose, he still refuses.
He’s putting his Zionist ideology and his stubborn inability to admit fault ahead of not just Gazan lives, but also the survival of American democracy and the universality of international law.
Even KAMALA would be a better choice than someone so completely out of touch with and devoid of respect for the ideals and institutions he’s supposed to be protecting.
Still better than Trump, though, so we just have to keep pretending that the old war criminal is perfect, lest the Blue No Matter Who apparatchiks lob spurious allegations of fascist loyalties at us 😮💨🤦
It’s not good. Biden stands the worst chance against Trump, which is why concern trolls are so desperate to shut down and dismiss any discussion of replacing him.
Notice how literally none of these people have any problem whatsoever with any of Trump’s gaffes?
What? Which people?
Trumps a client of a pedophile sex trafficking ring that had his dealer assassinated. He built his political career on the racist conspiracy that Obama was born in Kenya, colluded with Russia to become president, appointed climate change deniers to head the EPA and Dept of Energy, appointed public education deniers to head the Dept of Education, oil isnt bad enough for the environment for him so he endorses coal, was antivax before republicans thought it was cool, and nothing else on this world is closer to convincing me of the Bible than the idea that Trump is the antichrist.
But no trump supporter is going to see this
This is just the “I won’t vote for Biden because Israel refuses to sign a ceasefire” bullshit all over again.
This is incredibly disingenuous. More like “Because he is arming, supporting and diplomatically protecting a genocidal government.” We know it’s not his fault Israel are assholes, it’s the stuff he is doing that is the problem.
They have no problem whatsoever with Trump’s policies. They have no problem whatsoever with project 2025.
My brother in christ why do you think we want Biden to actually be a good candidate?
Genocide supporting, doddering old Biden is a much better candidate than the unhinged far right felon that wouldn’t know the truth if it pissed on his face, BUT HE NEEDS TO WIN THE ELECTION FIRST. If being not as bad as trump was enough Hilary would have won.
It is precisely because I hate trump so much that I want Biden to be better. If you are in a debate with Trump and most people watching think you lost, you fucked up big time. The pigeon you’re playing chess with might have shit on the board and felt like he won, but you should have at least done enough so that the audience watching this didn’t fucking agree with him.
I’ve been pointing all of this out for a while now. Ask any of them about these issues and they have no answer at all. They just divert the discussion back to gEnOciDe jOe.
Everyone needs to hold these trolls accountable for what they’d say. Ask them to answer why they seem to not care about Trump and what he’s promised to do.
There’s rational criticism to be against Biden but most the critical mass of outrage over his debate performance is hysterical * and takes air time from valid concerns regarding his ability to preserve the Union. *
Jan 1st, 2029, neither Trump nor Biden will be president of the United States.
If Biden wins this year, I’m pretty sure trump is both stupid and stubborn enough to run again in 2028 if he’s still alive, and I’m pretty sure the republicans are both stupid and stubborn enough to nominate him again.
And if Trump wins, he probably won’t be stepping down until he dies.
Which I hope is before he takes office
One of them probably will, since the term ends on the 20th, not the 1st.
That is what I was saying. I don’t think either will last the full term.
Oh, I see. Possibly, but Biden’s dad made it to 86, which is how old Biden would be at the end of his term, and Trump’s made it to 93.
Fuck this guy. The country and freedom are more important than his ego and hubris. A real leader would work to facilitate onboarding a capable candidate so we can avoid devolving into a christo-fascist hellscape.
Well, that’s on him, and so is his loss and all the consequences that come from it. All to try and satisfy his ego. Insanity.
Could be that he’s trying to save America from falling into the hands of a fascist traitor to his country.
He sad before that he wasn’t planning on running again unless it’s to keep Trump from taking over.
Now that that Trump is trying to take over- it’s his duty to protect America. And so he’s running. I know this upsets the bots and MAGA trolls, but that’s where we are now.
If he was trying to save American democracy he’d step down, this is about his bloated sense of self importance.
He’s going to lose if he runs. He’s the single worst option for Democrats.
ROFL… you seem quite certain of this. Care to share what you know that the rest of us don’t?
No, the rest of us know, you don’t know because you haven’t been paying attention. Polling shows Biden losing by almost 10 points. Even Kamala Harris has better numbers.
So if you actually wanted the best chance, you’d be wanting him to step down. But I’m guessing you don’t.
Polls…. ROFL. The person that is suggesting someone that’s not even running to be the one to defeat Trump…. believes in polls.
How fitting.
How it feel to be wrong, tto have been wrong the entire time, and have every body know it but you knowing it.
Who says I’m wrong? Your fellow bots? I’m certain they don’t count for anything. And speaking of being wrong….
How about we compare mod logs to see who’s had posts removed for misinformation and trolling, shall we? I’m putting my money on you winning that one.
So… I ask you:
How it feel to be wrong, tto have been wrong the entire time, and have every body know it but you knowing it?
Its about how well your world view predicts the future.
Yours doesn’t.
Realistically, you are the one whose been putting out the misinformation and has been trolling; its what history will show and how this will all shake out.
You are in the wrong; they are in the wrong.
And someone who’s constantly having comments removed and banned is the voice of reason here?
Everyone knows what you’re up to. You’re not fooling anyone.
What is this 2005? Been so long since I’ve seen “ROFL” lol
ZOMGWTFBBQ
No, that’s a blatantly selfish and ego driven motivation. “I’m too important to waste my time on the presidency unless I get to be seen as some kinda savior.”
But he really has absolutely no chance of being remembered that way. Even if he wins. Especially if he wins. He has allowed pride to rob him of any chance of having a legacy with remembering. Ironic I think…
Maybe it’s that he knows he can win. It’s called confidence. I get that everyone wants the democratic vote divided, but some of us just want to keep Trump from winning.
When a disease is killing its host within a few months, you don’t spend years trying to cure the disease, you try and buy time by treating the damage so as to keep the just alive while working on a cure.
This is something that shouldn’t need to be explained.
I think he’s gonna end up fucking off.
Into the afterlife
Just to save someone a click… the news article doesn’t have a video of biden saying this. It was apparently a quote in a conference call between DNC leadership or something
The way things are going he is either going to leave before the election or shortly after the election.
We made our bed, now we gotta sleep in it.
The DNC made our beds
This is our last chance to pressure him into retirement. If Biden runs, he’s going to lose. The “get over yourself” isn’t enough to push a win.
Yeah he’s leaving.
He’ll be announcing Friday on Morning Joe.
another four years in the retirement home for the US either way
