• JesusSon@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I hope all these sources get on the same page soon because I have some old head friends who read all this stuff and believe he was a Chinese national working for the Iranians, set up next to snipers in a building cleared by locals. They say he was then confronted after he climbed a ladder but before he bear-crawled 25 feet to aim, only to be interrupted by local cops forcing him to fire quickly but was killed by snipers who had been watching him use a range finder for hours.

    Please get it together, all these 50-year-old conspiracy theorists are going to start having heart attacks lol.

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      Gen X isn’t the problem here. It’s boomers. It’s always been boomers who were the problem.

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        Oh now there old friend, I wasn’t making a generalization as to a whole ass generation. I am sure I could commiserate with you as to the fuckery boomers have shit down our backs since they traded in free love for free hate but I try real hard not to drag ass on a bitch after 5pm if you get my meaning.

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      I’d suggest reading the article. It gives the play by play of how the events occurred. I think you’re reading headlines and then constructing your own picture of what happened.

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        Bless your heart, I read it right before I posted. Thank you kindly for the advice though.

        At some point, everything I wrote was in an article just like this one, only citing “sources in (insert official entity here)” and always starting with “sources say.” Well, except for the Iranian one, that one was a separate incident but a buddy of mine mentioned it right before I read the post so I added it.

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      all these 50-year-old conspiracy theorists are going to start having heart attacks lol.

      And that is a problem why?

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        Mainly because heart attacks suck and tend to kill but also because I’m not a heartless cunt wishing death on people just because they are stupid.

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          Also because the heart attacks of god fearing republicans was the goal all along! The Democrats, in concert with George Soros, devised this plan in 2020. By fixing the vote, it radicalized the Trump loving shooter setting up the situation for the shooter to be the cause of the heart attacks. Its an elaborate multi-pronged plan years in the making that is only now coming to fruition…and these liburls think good republicans are stupid enough to fall for it. Pizzagate!11!1!!! /s

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    pulls out range finder from ~130 yards away. Proceeds to miss 7/8 shots completely on a 6ft3" 240lb man from the prone.

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      Didn’t the first shot only miss because Trump turned his head? After the first one you’ve got to deal with recoil/nerves.

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        I didn’t hear anything suggesting he used irons, that’d be a very odd choice. Most modern ARs don’t come with irons or an optic and you can get red dots much better than just irons for under $200.

        And irons would decidedly be harder but 100 yards still is very achievable by a novice who follows fundamentals.

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          Sorry, in this case I’m referring to no magnification. Your right that’s there’s a bunch of things that could be sights without it being irons.

          The photos and media speculation seem to suggest that there wasn’t a scope.

          ——

          I still don’t think this is as easy as people make it out to be. Yes, a novice could put a tight grouping downrange - but could they do that on their first shot, on a hot metal roof, with adrenaline pumping.

          I know it typically takes me a few rounds at the range to get dialed in.

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        Don’t know if it’s true, but word is he’s been on Ozempic recently. He has lost a noticeable amount of weight, but 6’3" and 240, he definitely ain’t.

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      Apparently, he tried to join his school’s rifle club but was rejected for having terrible marksmanship.

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          ¯⁠\_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ I’m just relaying what I read in the news. I agree that it’s dumb for a club (as opposed to a competitive rifle “team”) to be like that, but it’s allegedly what happened nonetheless.

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    If only there was ONE MORE GUN OFFICER SNIPER he would NOT have been able to get a shot off!

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    This is the fundamental problem with protecting a candidate whose entire base is really big on guns, big on having guns on them, big on using every inch of their already permissive rights, and no matter what, the candidate’s rally is a highly likely place for them to flex their pieces, even if they can only wave them around in the parking lot.

    You can’t just do the obvious thing and put rounds in everyone you see with a rifle. White girls are going to be out in the parking lot doing influencer dances with AR-15s. The muzzle might wave in Trump’s direction while she boot scoots. We don’t know what kind of orders that sniper had, but probably something along the lines of “look all these fuckers are going to be strapped if they can be strapped, stay chilly on the trigger and think twice, take no shots without orders.”

    By the time anybody acted like a clear threat, the bullets were already flying. So what if he had a rangefinder? That doesn’t count as a “pull trigger now” level threat, not with this crowd. What an absolute bastard of a thing to provide overwatch for, you know?

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      This is the fundamental problem with protecting a candidate whose entire base is really big on guns, big on having guns on them, big on using every inch of their already permissive rights, and no matter what, the candidate’s rally is a highly likely place for them to flex their pieces, even if they can only wave them around in the parking lot.

      If police snipers started opening up on random people at a Trump rally who were simply parading around their most tacti-cool looking hardware, imagine how much safer the convention could be.

      You can’t just do the obvious thing and put rounds in everyone you see with a rifle.

      They absolutely can and they absolutely should. Treat the RNC like its Oakland during the OJ Riots or New Orleans during a hurricane. Just start blasting anyone who looks vaguely threatening and don’t stop until you feel safe again.

      Anyone who argues otherwise simply isn’t serious when they say “Blue Lives Matter”. I mean, ffs, can you even imagine what the world would have lost if Thomas Matthew Crooks had adjusted his aim and hit one of our brave servicemen?

      Every single American police officer needs to treat these thugs and their guns with absolute seriousness. Lives are on the line. And not just the lives of school children. Important ones.

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      You would think, though, that it would be a “get some guys with guns onto that roof before he comes back” sign. 20 minutes is plenty of time to get at least some guys with pistols/their own AR-15s over there to secure the area. Also, simply having the right to own and carry weapons doesn’t give you the right to point them at people intentionally, much less set up a sniper’s nest on a divisive public figure. If a random guy in the crowd started pointing his pistol at Trump, then I’m fairly certain that would give Secret Service the right to at least tackle the guy or tase him, not to mention all the other people who would rush to control him.