Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Walz embodies everything liberal women see in their own fathers – except for their political views. For some, it makes them hopeful but also very sad.

He’s got jokes, enthusiasm and a smiley face that’s not even remotely trying to hide how he’s feeling. He’s Tim Walz- and he’s bringing major Midwestern dad energy to the Democratic ticket.

At least that’s how many white women feel when they see Walz in videos, riding the Slingshot at the state fair with his daughter, signing legislation to give kids in Minnesota free lunches or tweeting about his pet cat.

It’s in stark contrast to what some see in their own fathers - who often have more conservative political views.

“He is silly. My dad used to be very, very silly and goofy,” Pamela Wurst Vetrini, a woman who recently compared Walz to her father, said in a viral TikTok video.

A lot of us had moderate to conservative, educated, sensible fathers that we lost to Rush Limbaugh. That we lost to Fox News. That we lost to Donald Trump. And the cult of conservatism that has grown and grown and grown has driven a wedge between millennial woman and her father,” she said.

  • TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    I think Tim Walz is very important, because he shows that “regular,” working class, middle aged men don’t HAVE to be conservative. We don’t have to believe in baseless conspiracy theories, we don’t have to reject scientific evidence, we don’t have to divorce ourselves from reality. We don’t have to believe that vaccines are evil, that climate change is a hoax, or that the 2020 election was stolen. Maybe we don’t agree with everything the liberals say and do, but that doesn’t mean we have to go full ding dong and start listening to Joe Rogan and Ben Shapiro. There are other options and Tim Walz is representative of at least one of those alternatives.

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      Not to mention that he shows that you can be both masculine AND change your mind about things. Even letting your children change your mind. Shocking!

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        And being masculine while openly giving support to the less fortunate. Contrasting with the might-makes-right view that these alt-right “masculine” types subscribe to.

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        That’s a really important point. For some reason, many men think it’s somehow a sign of weakness to be wrong about something, or to admit that someone knows more about something than you do. I think you look weak if you refuse to admit when you’re wrong and double down on some ignorant position out of stubbornness.

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      The fact that so many blue collar people are conservative when they could just as easily be liberals amazes me. Democrats are the ones who want unions, better environment, better labor rights, better working conditions, but somehow the conservatives are really good at lying and making propaganda.

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    Had a good friend of 30 years, tell me over the phone that my kids and I should be shot because I didn’t immediately feel sorry for Trump being shot at.

    I told him, “This is a direct result of pushing division, guns being able to be bought with amazing ease, and it will probably happen again.”

    He said, “I wish the same thing that happened to Trump to happen to you and your kids.” and hung up.

    Friendship over. I’m not being friends with anyone who wishes my kids to be killed.

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    Yes!!! I’ve already had it out with my dad who tried to diss Walz on his service record.

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    He seems like a nice dude, I’ve met him at my uni once and he seemed cool for a politician, like genuine and not fake.

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    Partisan fucking division? Fucking partisan division?

    Christ.

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      Partisan division is when your dad wants to put immigrants in concentration camps and you don’t!

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    he’s going to run for president in 8 years and we’re going to have the old people problem again

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    This supports my theory that left wingers are often born out of households with weak or absent fathers

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      So you’re saying most father’s that turned into MAGA fanatics were weak or absent when their children were young? I don’t know how to interpret it otherwise.

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        Change it out for a lack of positive perspective for the future and you might even be right.

        Thats maybe why the empty promises work to begin with.

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        Lol yeah dismiss facts because you didnt like the instance I have a second account on.

        also lol keep lapping up the dem propaganda unquestioningly

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          I don’t like the instance you’re on because it’s full of assholes and you’re not exactly making it easy for me to change that opinion.

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            It doesn’t matter what justification you use to keep burying your head in the sand, you’re still blinding yourself in a desperate attempt to safeguard some hope about the upcoming election no matter how false it may be.

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              In the midst of your righteous anger, you might have missed the point that I wasn’t talking about Tim Walz.

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                No, you keep trying to deflect from his shitty record to me having a second account on hexbear. I just keep trying to have you take an actual look at the guy and not just blindly cheerlead whoever the dems put in front of you.

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                  I am not a moderator in this community. Believe it or not, I am not able to shut you up or shut you down. You can post a response criticizing Walz in reply to every person on this thread and there would be nothing I could do about it.

                  Gotta love how people on Lemmy claim you’re trying to silence them.

                  If you’re worried about people deflecting from your claims, maybe your claims aren’t very good and you should find some claims that people can’t deflect.

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            If he won’t stand up against the genocide his party supports and calls the national freaking guard on BLM protestors, a move so fashist it impressed even Trump:

            “I was very happy with the last couple of days, Tim,” Trump continued. “You called up big numbers and the big numbers knocked them out so fast it was like bowling pins.”

            https://abcnews.go.com/US/despite-new-criticism-trump-told-walz-2020-happy/story?id=112616502

            then I don’t know how hating on him makes me a hypocrite.

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              LOL an opinion article from Haaretz about American politics.

              And, of course, you’ll be fine denouncing that paper when it supports genocide as being completely unreliable as a source.

              But when it agrees with you…

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                You have no idea that the context of citations matters do you?

                a) it’s an opinion article, I’m not linking it because of factual reporting, which indeed the Haaretz is unreliable on.

                b) the point is that the Haaretz, which is trying to whitewash the genocide, is cool with Walz.

                I would also cite far-right american newspapers if I wanted to showcase how the far-right likes someone and approves of their “silence”.

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                  Cool. Show us how the far-right in America really likes Tim Walz then (one single positive comment about an event that happened years ago is not enough to show that they like someone, sorry). Especially considering they were all pissed off Harris didn’t pick Shapiro.