• Draghetta@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I’m sorry for the naivety, maybe there is something cool I’m not catching.

    Haven’t we had biodegradable, compostable “plastic” shopping bags for like 20 years now? What’s the news here?

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      8 months ago

      Probably that it’s based on corn-waste. Most I’ve seen are sugar-cane based. US grows a lot more corn than sugar cane.

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    8 months ago

    Decomposes in 180 days under what circumstances? 'cause if it requires high-temperature municipal compost, the vast majority of bags produced aren’t gonna decompose.

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        8 months ago

        Hemp as well. I’m certain we could make some sort of plastics with hemp, we can make practically everything from hemp. The added benefit of hemp is that it stores 85% of the excessive amount of carbon it consumes in its roots, so we can do whatever we want with the rest of the plant, harvest the roots, compress them into a cube much denser than water, drop them into the Mariana Trench, and not worry about that carbon for a few hundred million years.

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          8 months ago

          I like cannabis sativa for it’s medicinal and psychoactive properties, but I love cannabis sativa for its material, ecological, and agricultural properties. It’s a damn fine plant

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            I’ve done the math, and we could totally reverse anthropogenic climate change with a reasonable amount of hemp production. It could be done in as little as a decade with an unreasonable amount of production. Something like 5 billion acres of production per year, but if we got just 500 million acres into production, and threw away the excess carbon, we would wipe out the excess carbon we’ve put into the air over the last 12,000 years in just over a century.

            At that point we could scale back production to use the hemp as a global thermostat, slowly adjusting the average temperature by a hundredth of a degree every decade or so.

      • apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Yeah, maybe. The paper industry is a farming industry like any other, so growth is a consideration but not necessarily the only one.

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        8 months ago

        It also takes a whole lot more energy and water to manufacture paper bags rather than plastic. I personally use synthetic reusable bags that will probably outlive me whenever possible.

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      Whilst paper and canvas is biodegradable, plastic as a material has certain useful traits compared to paper and canvas, hence why making/developing similar biologically based and degradable materials helps reduce our reliance on it.

      Examples of such traits: Liquid resistance, non-permeable to water, see-through.

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        8 months ago

        And the #1 most important factor, and why plastic bags are the most common:

        The cost

        If we can’t find a cheaper solution, it won’t be adopted without regulations.

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    8 months ago

    Nice! With the best will in the world I always forget my standard shopping bags and I feel that the “bags for life” just replace one thin and crap lump of plastic for an overly engineered one.

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      8 months ago

      How are they over-engineered? They last much longer. Canvas ones forever, pretty much.

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        8 months ago

        The plastic ones (here in the UK at least) also split and fall apart, they’re better than the “standard” ones but they don’t usually last that much longer.

        Also I have a million of them because I always forget to bring them.

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          Hey Pete,

          What helped me with the same problem and others is to act like it really mattered,cause it does. For me I ask myself “if I were to get 20 million $£€ if i did this perfect for a year, would I.” then try and act like it. If I were to give you this money, you would not forget your bags at home. You would always have them when needed and in a quality that wouldn’t rip easily. Act like that. Then it will quickly be a habbit that you won’t have to think about.

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          8 months ago

          I remember using them a lot (I’m from the UK) and they were much stronger, could hold more, and would last ages if you didn’t strain them.

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