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It is like saying that someone who had a family living in Nazi Germany definitely had to support holocaust and the Nazis.
No, because after the war we didn’t just wait 10 years and let the nazis take power again and reinstitute their racism, their ghettos, and a scaled down, more personal version of the holocaust.
And tbf, Hitler wrote about Jim Crow as a shining example for Germany in Mein kampf.
Germans at least showed remorse, we don’t have statues of Hitler and goering around everywhere still.
Nazis are in charge of Israel for a while and Israel is yet to be disarmed so I am not sure what is you are talking about.
I think you really need to look up the definition of the word nazi…
Nobody from or in any way related to the National Socialist Party of Germany (NSDAP) is currently in any form of power in Israel.
You have been misinformed.
Have I then?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
The Nazi Party,[b] officially the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei [c] or NSDAP), was a far-right[10][11][12] political party in Germany active between 1920 and 1945 that created and supported the ideology of Nazism. Its precursor, the German Workers’ Party (Deutsche Arbeiterpartei; DAP), existed from 1919 to 1920. The Nazi Party emerged from the extremist German nationalist (“Völkisch nationalist”), racist and populist Freikorps paramilitary culture, which fought against communist uprisings in post–World War I Germany.[13] The party was created to draw workers away from communism and into völkisch nationalism.[14] Initially, Nazi political strategy focused on anti–big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric; it was later downplayed to gain the support of business leaders. By the 1930s, the party’s main focus shifted to antisemitic and anti-Marxist themes.[15] The party had little popular support until the Great Depression, when worsening living standards and widespread unemployment drove Germans into political extremism.[12]
How was I misinformed?
Oh, this is one of those “I don’t like being called names so I’ll redefine words” things?
Let’s have a think…
Aggressive wars again neighbours
Creating a lebensraum for chosen race
Racism and racist laws
Exterminating lesser races
Ghettos and concentration camps
Tortures
Naah, definitively not a nazism, sweetheart 😂
Aggressive wars again neighbours - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
Creating a lebensraum for chosen race - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_transfer_in_the_Soviet_Union
forcibly transferred populations of various groups. These actions may be classified into the following broad categories: deportations of “anti-Soviet” categories of population (often classified as “enemies of the people”), deportations of entire nationalities, labor force transfer, and organized migrations in opposite directions to fill ethnically cleansed territories. Dekulakization marked the first time that an entire class was deported, whereas the deportation of Soviet Koreans in 1937 marked the precedent of a specific ethnic deportation of an entire nationality.[9]
Racism and racist laws - ditto
Exterminating lesser races - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
Ghettos and concentration camps - Literally all of Siberia as gulags: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag
I mean Beria counts as torture and serial pedophilic rape, so take your pick.
That’s like saying German citizens during WW2 should be killed, raped and tortured. Black and white is usually the wrong way to go about thinking.
Without commenting on whether I agree with the screenshot, I’d like to ask a question - what do you (as in, the people who would like to see “Zionism” defeated) think will happen if “Zionism” will be defeated?
The same as happened in Germany. People guilty of war crimes and supporting nazi regime would end in prison. What do YOU think would happen to them?
You think Hamas would treat Israelis the same as the allied forces treated Germans? Based on what?
To answer your question:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_October_Hamas-led_attack_on_Israel#Reported_atrocities (as well as the mass murder of civilians that for some reason aren’t mentioned in the section)
Firstly, who was talking about Hamas? I never said Israel should be disarmed by Hamas. It should be disarmed by an international coalition, which would then it turn guarantee harsh punishment for Israeli war criminals starting with Netanyahu and safety for civilian population within Israel internationally recognises borders.
Secondly, I belive Hamas would treat Israeli the same way Israel treats Palestinians. Go figure.
What “should”? The context of the discussion is the screenshot, and it said "if “Zionism is defeated like the south was defeated in the civil war”. The comparison to the US civil war might be a bit weird, but it’s pretty obvious he means “If Hamas were to win the conflict and treat Israel as it saw fit” (like what happened in the civil war).
Also, it’s a bit weird for me you’re phrasing your scenario as a “Zionist defeat”, as I know many Zionists (myself included) who would view that as a “Zionist win”, at least in the long run (as long as you’re for equal treatment of Hamas and Palestinians).
Secondly, I belive Hamas would treat Israeli the same way Israel treats Palestinians.
That’s a bit funny to me, as I think Hamas treats Palestinians wore than Israel treats Palestinians, but there’s probably no point going into that. Regardless, do you think this would be worse, the same or better than the current situation?
Also, it’s a bit weird for me you’re phrasing your scenario as a “Zionist defeat”, as I know many Zionists (myself included) who would view that as a “Zionist win”, at least in the long run
Try to read again. Slowly.
Counteroffer - try to read what I said with the understanding there might be a difference between what you think “Zionism” is and what Zionism actually is. Not all Zionists would agree with what I said, but then again that’s also one of the thing you probably don’t understand.
The American civil war was bloody, but its not like the south was eradicated…
Almost quite the contrary considering the confederate flag is still waved around despite literally losing.
