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The country’s prime minister said the incident, the latest in a series of disruptions to undersea infrastructure, underscored the danger of a so-called Russian shadow fleet.

At least Finland is fighting for the good of humanity.

  • eran_morad@lemmy.worldOP
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    3 months ago

    The West must fucking find its balls and acknowledge that we are in a hybrid war against the blyats. It is high fucking time we fight back. Using every means short of direct military conflict.

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            3 months ago

            It will take another 20-30 years before the Russians recover enough from their current losses to even start considering attacking a neighbouring country that can fight back.

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              If they defeat Ukraine on the battlefield Moldova and Georgia would be pushovers

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                3 months ago

                I did say a country that can fight back. Moldova and Georgia aren’t going to align themselves with NATO and won’t receive the funding and arms that Ukraine has.

                People talking about Poland being next are delusional.

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      3 months ago

      Why should we stop short?
      Russia is actively in combat with an Eastern European nation and has been for 4 years. It’s arguable that the rest of Europe and the West engaging with Russia on a battlefield would actually save more lives in the end by shortening the conflict.
      They can’t make war if you remove their means to make war.

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        Because it’s far more effective to wage an asymmetric non-shooting war. We have far more resources than the blyats could muster. We could outcompete them 100-fold in every fucking dimension. we could gradually weaken them until their miserable state crumbles. All without the devastation of war.

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    3 months ago

    You allow Russia to invade one country, you invite Russia to invade the next country.

    You allow Russia to shoot down one passenger plane, you invite Russia to shoot down the next passenger plane.

    You allow Russia to cut one undersea cable, you invite Russia to cut more undersea cables.

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    3 months ago

    Just start ‘accidentally’ sinking the fucking ships that ‘accidentally’ cut the cables and that will get the message across.

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    3 months ago

    I’m just waiting for the moment when a country exposed to “accidental” cable cutting, or attacks using water jets from the Chinese coast guard or similar, just responds by shooting first and asking questions later.

    Like: You cut our cables/blocked our atoll from getting resupply, etc… put a 50mm in their face and carry on. Let them do the responding.

    “Oh no, they were conducting acts of war and were in our way, so we sank them. What are you gonna do about it? Maybe stop doing that?”

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      Oh but they crave escalation. Like any bully, they want the victim to respond violently, because that would justify their actions and let them respond in kind, saying they are just protecting their security.

      Even those ship arrests are fodder for their internal propaganda - “They just started arresting innocent Chinese ships with russian crews! Barbarians AND Facists!”

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        3 months ago

        Trust me, bullies back down after escalation. Ever punch a bully in the lip?

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      3 months ago

      Don’t be silly. The thing is full of perfectly good oil (that would contaminate everything of you sank it), but which can pay for part of cable repairs, once nobody pays up from the Cook Islands or the “owner” company.