Summary

Senator Bernie Sanders criticized Elon Musk over his support for the H-1B visa program, calling it a tool for corporations to replace good-paying American jobs with lower-wage foreign labor.

Sanders cited data showing U.S. companies laid off 85,000 American workers between 2022 and 2023 while hiring 34,000 H-1B visa holders, arguing this undermines U.S. competitiveness.

Musk, who credits the visa program for his success, defended it, stating he’s ready to “go to war” over the issue.

The debate has divided MAGA conservatives, exposing rifts within Trump’s coalition.

  • someguy3@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    No Bernie let them fight. “Never Interfere With an Enemy While He’s in the Process of Destroying Himself.”

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      Oh he’s absolutely letting them fight, he’s just stoking them up more playing into the big issue splitting the republican party in two.

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      Bernie always was MAGA but not for the slogan but actually to improve people’s lives.

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          We did have a 90% tax bracket… and Roe v. Wade, and Presidents who were presumably accountable to the justice system, and elections that people generally accepted the outcome, and much less toxic disconnect between political parties, and media that wasn’t all owned by a handful of billionaires, and we had the Fairness Doctrine, and Citizens United.

          So yah getting back to that basic level of functionality would be nice actually.

          Whenever I think of “MAGA” I think of the strong middle class that characterized post-war America and wonder wtf these people are actually doing.

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            I hear you, but that strong post-war middle class was overwhelmingly white due to our racist systems. As much as I like the things you’ve mentioned, we need to stop looking at our past and look at the future.

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              Those programs, while imperfectly implemented, also showed that they really did improve the lives of the people who were able to gain the advantages of them. We need to look to what those programs did well and fix and rework what those programs did poorly.

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            90% was the top rate, in practice the rich during that time paid less tax than today because they had huge loopholes

            Top 1% paid only 16.9% of their income in tax compared to 25.9% now (of the total amount, you can be in a higher bracket and your total percentage will always be lower than your bracket)

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          US has a lot of dark history for sure, but being middle class wasn’t as bad as it is right now.

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            Is anyone middle class anymore? I mean like doctors and lawyers sure, but for the average worker it’s out of reach.

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      I think the expression is “Don’t interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake.”

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    smarter choice to attack elon, trump wont be with us that much longer in the grand scheme of things. good chance he passes in office. one way or another

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      Lets hope that massive pile of breathing human excrement passes his last mushy liquid mound of stool in his depends while sitting in the oval Office. Jd Vance is also disgusting but he had half a spine when he told the truth that trump is America’s hitler. Sold out his morals pretty quick to be American hitler’s vp though

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      I read it as him saying Tesla, SpaceX, etc. couldn’t have succeeded without H1-B visa workers.

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      That’s because Elon isn’t supporting H1B out of his love for immigrants or immigration. He’s supporting it because he knows he can pay them less. He’s a capitalist douchebag selling out the country to lowest bidder

      You’re the one dancing to this capitalist’s tune

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    Bernie had his chance and so did the rest of the paid off Democrats

    gloves on both sides are off and even if Democrats magically win the next election nothing will change

    once Bernie dies someone else will be appointed to be the single nutjob that appears to be on the side of the citizens all for show

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        No one is ever pure enough for Verdant Banana’s purity test. But you’d think they would at least take time to be happy that Harris lost considering how hard they tried to make that happen.

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      Bernie Sanders left the Democratic Party in 2020 and is an independent. If you’re going to bash someone for their affiliations, at least check first.