TL;DR: The CyberTruck is 17 times more likely to have a fire fatality than a Ford Pinto

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      2 months ago

      That’s only half the story and not really the part that makes it so significant. The recall was only done after a report sent to NHTSA was released to the public detailing the cost benefit analysis that safer fuel systems was considered more expensive to society than just allowing some people to die due to less safe cars and therefore the car industry shouldn’t have to meet the safety standards the NHTSA was proposing. This was a landmark moment in legal ethics and while it was pretty standard stuff in the corporate and regulatory world of the time (and today) and the dollar values assigned to human lives were based on NHTSAs own figures, not Fords it enraged enough people and a recall was done.

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    If I had a nickel for every time a car company owned by a nazi sympathizer who wants to found his own exploitive company town made an infamously fiery car that you can hear rusting, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.

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      Not saying Ford wasn’t an exploitative nazi sympathizer, he was. But can’t leave the Dodge brothers out of some of the blame while you’re handing it out. They’re the whole reason companies have to put shareholders first, after they sued Ford for trying to invest dividends back into the company and employee wages.

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    My childhood car was a Pinto. I was very grateful it never blew up when I read about the issues many years later.

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      It had nice lines. Must’ve been nice whipping that around while I was looking for a place to dock my Cutlass Supreme. Lol

      Glad you didn’t blow up.

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    All caps doesn’t make your post more interesting. Just annoying.

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    Who would have guessed the armored tesla trucks have armor to protect whatever is outside of the tesla

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    this again? They didn’t even read their own reference for the fire stats…

    With its decade-long production run, the NHTSA reported that the Ford Pinto and its famously flawed gas tank behind the rear bumper caused 27 fiery deaths with its knowingly negligent design. https://www.autosafety.org/wp-content/uploads/import/ODIPinto.pdf

    Cherrypicking galore:

    1. They literally took 27 which is the fire deaths from rear-ending only (vs 41 fire fatalities from a 2.5 year period instead of the 9 years they mention
    2. They conveniently did not use the 1,626 pinto fatalities from those 2.5 years.
    3. They used the total number of pintos produced, not the number of pintos on the roads at the end of the analysis, which would be less than 2.2M.

    At least they did get your clicks.

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      This ‘news article’ from OP is just some dudes one-man show blog, and looking through a few articles they seem to dislike all EVs not just Teslas. Absolutely garbage source, I’m not surprised you found errors.

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        yeah half the EV articles are about the CT on the blog. But I suspect it’s because the haters click more. What would be a valid analysis after a little longer because the CTs haven’t been on the roads long enough, is to compare them with the F150 Lightning. I suspect fire rates will be fairly similar between the two.

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      There was the original story a week ago about this and the “analyst” included the fireworks explosion in Vegas to get to their resiult.

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        yup. it’s quite disturbing that even a rolling industrial garbage container like the CT needs fake analyses to be ridiculed.

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          I don’t really want to get into a debate about specifics, but this has long been the case with Elon and Tesla/SpaceX.

          Especially pre pedo comment, much of what gets said about him and his companies are much like including the fireworks. Fake, made up, or exaggerated shit meant to stir up extra hate for the circle jerk.

          However, he has done so many blatantly bad things since then that there really is no reason to have to make shit up or do fake analysis, but it still happens and always has. The circlejerk needs to continue fake or not.

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        Thankfully mod removed it. Worst yet, it was upvoted.

        But it’s so common. It’s okay to wish death, harm and property damage now on here. Mods do eventually remove it but it’s too late. Everyone gets to read it and have the same conclusions, this behaviour is OKAY.

        IT ISN’T, NEVER WAS. we want to pretend we’re “better” than right… Yet we have exactly the same shit, it just targets change.