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    Trans people or any people wanting to play games with their friends should be what society fosters and nurtures as the entire fucking point of society’s existence. Something something… planting trees something something knowing they’ll never sit under…

    Coed teams exist. They’re finding issue with mtf athletes playing against a league of individuals who didn’t go through puberty as a male. That’s clearly an advantage, and to say otherwise is to ignore science altogether.

    Maybe the solution is non-gendered weight classes for sports, or just more coed teams. Idk

    Edit: yall will convince yourselves of anything lol. Really wild the dumb shit some people will say

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      They’re finding issue with mtf athletes playing against a league of individuals who didn’t go through puberty as a male.

      Good news! Puberty blockers exist and have been studied and used for literal decades for other reasons.

      That’s clearly an advantage, and to say otherwise is to ignore science altogether.

      The science says 2-3 years of hormone therapy levels the playing field and there’s no more advantage.

      In fact, women who haven’t transitioned often have an advantage because their testosterone levels can be higher than women who have transitioned.

      And that’s the crux of the issue: human variation.

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        The science says 2-3 years of hormone therapy levels the playing field and there’s no more advantage.

        Would you be opposed to a requirement that trans women wanting to compete in women’s leagues undergo 3 years of hormone therapy before being allowed to play?

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          I think most trans people would agree that’s reasonable, but at that point, you also have to talk about the bans on transition for minors, which would affect a minors ability to have that time frame met, and then their ability to play.

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      They’re finding issue with mtf athletes playing against a league of individuals who didn’t go through puberty as a male. That’s clearly an advantage, and to say otherwise is to ignore science altogether.

      That would be an argument worth discussing if the Nazis weren’t also trying to ban puberty blockers and frothing at the mouth claiming the trans agenda is coming for their kids. But no, right now, that’s a garbage bad faith argument, because it already has an obvious answer. That’s how they poison the discussion.