Defense attorneys for alleged CEO killer Luigi Mangione said Thursday in a new court filing that the murder indictment a state grand jury returned against him should be dismissed due to double jeopardy and other alleged violations.

The indictment should be dismissed “because concurrent state and federal prosecutions violate the Double Jeopardy Clause, the Fourteenth Amendment’s Due Process Clause and Mr. Mangione’s constitutional rights against self-incrimination, to meaningfully defend himself, to a fair and impartial jury and to the effective assistance of counsel,” defense attorneys wrote.

Defense attorney Karen Friedman Agnifilo said in the filing that “prosecutorial one-upmanship” resulted in Mangione facing state and federal charges in New York and separate charges in Pennsylvania.

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    Has be considered running for office? Then they can’t convict him for fear of looking politically biased. That’s how that works, right?

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    Under the Double Sovereignty doctrine, the Double Jeopardy clause doesn’t apply in this case tho. Hence, you can be charged for the same offense twice in both stage and federal court.

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      I read that, and then I read that it’s more complicated than we might assume it is, so that’s not always true. Obviously, the defense feels the same.

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        Rule of law? You are fucking kidding right?

        Here’s the Constitution for you lil bruv:

        Under due process, you will not be convicted of a crime unless the prosecutor proves that you are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

        Luigi, as far as the law understands via the [still to be taken] decision of a jury, is innocent.

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            Except what you said is imprison him. You called for an innocent man to be imprisoned. Are you 100% certain that you aren’t letting a subconscious bias about his innocence into your thoughts by using that language?

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              I personally believe he did it, but I will respect the outcome of the trial, unlike the person directly above me who wants Luigi freed without trial.

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          I’m sure he was just holding that Glock with a custom part he designed and printed himself and $20,000 cash for a friend. Just went on a little shopping trip in New York, sight seeing. /s

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    Mangione’s attorneys also sought to suppress statements he made to authorities in Altoona, Pennsylvania, where he was arrested after a five-day manhunt and where “officers failed to provide him with Miranda warnings,” according Thursday’s court filing.

    It’s crazy how everyone has known for fucking decades that cops are idiots who only “solve” cases thru presumed innocence and planting evidence to support it…

    Yet neither of our two political parties have ever tried to fix it.

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    They’ve also pointed to passages of Mangione’s writings, which described Mangione’s deepening fixation on UnitedHealthcare and an increasing malice over the corporation’s purported greed.

    Purported greed? Does any grown-ass adult sincerely doubt that corporations are greedy? Are we so far gone that the media can’t even say that without hedging? What are they going to do, sue? Good luck proving that they’re not greedy since public companies have a legal obligation to make as much money as possible.

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      I think it’s purported in this context because it lacked specific examples in the writing of Luigi Mangione.

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        There are better ways to say that if that was their intent. Like:

        They’ve also pointed to passages of Mangione’s writings, which described Mangione’s deepening fixation on UnitedHealthcare and an increasing malice over what he claims to be the corporation’s greed.

        Purported greed just smacks of cowardice.

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          That’s wordier and the connotation paints Luigi as a lunatic and UHC as some sort of saint, I think the original has minimal bias for the purpose of the trial.

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            It was just a half-assed attempt to provide an example, I’m just a dude on the internet who doesn’t write headlines all day, I’m sure someone who does could come up with something better.

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    It’s an extremely weak case, nearly impossible to win, and they all know it. So they’re going to make it the biggest legal circus since the OJ trial.

    They’ll do what they did in the OJ and Casey Anthony trials - keep them in prison while they drag the entire out as long as possible, and that way when they finally get set free in a couple of years, at least they served some time. Casey Anthony served over 3 years in jail, which is probably what she would have served for accidental manslaughter/ negligent homicide, which is probably what she was actually guilty of.

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      They do that to pretty much everyone so that they can give a plea deal years later saying “just pleas no contest and you can go home today!” and most people take it. The vicious cycle starts there and prosecutors do not care if there is no evidence where they’d drop the charges anyway not do they usually care if their is evidence of innocence.

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    I mean sure he killed some worthless fucker, but aren’t you still supposed to be punished for that? It’s a bit baffling to me there is a possible hope for Luigi to go scot free.

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      that’s not what is said here. The Federal government is prosecuting him and the States of New York and Pennsylvania are prosecuting him too. The lawyer is arguing that’s too many prosecutions for the same alleged crime.

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        To be honest I did not even read the article before commenting. This was meant for the ″Free Luigi″ people.

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      It’s baffling to me you can see the death of someone who knowingly and willingly denied medical care THAT THEY HAD ALREADY FUCKING PAID FOR to the needy as anything other than “fucking excellent.”

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      Holy shit we found the one person on the whole planet who might actually be wanted for this trials jury.