“There are a lot of innocent people who are in trouble and dying,” the president said in a session with reporters.
Gee, then maybe you shouldn’t have cut funding to the biggest single relief agency in the area just because Israel told you to (archive part 1, part 2), you fucking clod
e; Six pages of evidence (archive) about 12 people in an organization of 13000 that we probably didn’t even see (archive) and a bunch of disinformation from Israeli mouthpieces was all it took
You don’t have to prove with links that we did that. We were joined in it by a broad, multilateral coalition of partners.
Those who saw the raw intelligence said it was irrefutable and the problem was significantly more widespread than the 13 people directly accused, all of whom the agency immediately fired upon also seeing the intelligence.
[citation needed]
The fact that you’ve said this makes it obvious that you do not know enough about this story to have an opinion on it. You’re not following it closely enough snd haven’t done your basic homework to come into this conversation.
“over the top” is a bit tame in my opinion. i would frankly go as far as to say what they’re doing is “not cool”, maybe even “uncalled for”
Less than chill
Next he will tell them to knock it off. That will show them for sure.
Stop talking and pull the aid. Nothing Biden says on the subject matters while he’s still sending them aid.
*finger wagging strengthens, stern look intensifies*
*wink* *nod* [keeps sending Israel bombs to use against civilians in Gaza]
Are we continuing on the series for Biden’s campaign ads?
“You all thought he was supporting genocide but look he is slapping Israel’s wrist! There you go, now you can vote for him with a clear conscience”
It’s not slapping their wrist, it’s more like wagging his finger.
but he sharpens his criticism!
True, but at least he isn’t the orange orangutan that wants to kill democracy.
It’s so fucking depressing when you have these two as the most likely candidates and the only third option is so unknown that most people won’t know who they are and even less vote for them.
Hell, even the NYT doesn’t show de la Cruz in the running - https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/us/politics/presidential-candidates-2024.html
Unfortunately the US elections often come down to voting for the person you dislike less.
Do I like his stance on Israel? No
But his opponent (Trump) stance/actions is worse
So I will hold my nose and do my civic duty
Why do you think trump would be worse on israel? Hes the only president in 50-100 years not to start a war. He got us out of afghanistan. Hes not telling the israelis they have our full throated support. And even more importantly, I cant think of a single way for him personally to get rich off of the israeli genocide, so I can only assume he would have zero interest in prolonging it. Like, honestly, he seems like the least bad option weve had in a long time, because we know exactly how he will behave, and its certainly not as bad as all of the presidents who oversaw mass killings. He will be a buffoon, and he will probably attempt another coup. So what? You think the FBI cant contain a second coup, which they are now expecting? If thats the price we have to pay to get a president who doesnt openly support genocide, im more than willing to pay it.
Wow he said a slightly negative sentence about the terrorists he promised to limitlessly fund that genocides brown people. If anybody was wondering why he’s unpopular it’s this shit.
This sounds like the setup to an Onion article: “Biden calls Israel’s response to Gaza, ‘over the top.’ Says that bombing of refugee camps, ‘a bit much,’ and the famine cause by aid blockades, ‘really cringe.’ At press time, President Biden was signing a bipartisan deal to send the Israeli military $20 billion in weapons.”
Well Americans, prepare for Isreal to interfere with your elections.
They can get in line
They probably already do
They have legal bribery there, they don’t even need outside interference lol.
I had nothing to do with it, damnit.
I think it was the great philosopher Eric Cartman who said it best
“You people who are for the war, you need the protesters. Because they make the country look like it’s made of sane, caring individuals. And you people who are anti-war, you need these flag-wavers, because, if our whole country was made up of nothing but soft pussy protesters, we’d get taken down in a second. That’s why the founding fathers decided we should have both. It’s called “having your cake and eating it too.”
Don’t get me wrong, I am definitely a soft pussy protestor, but Biden is clearly having his cake and eating it too.
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The administration is clearly over Netanyahu, Blinken had some pretty strong comments on this week’s trip. He also met with Gantz, Eisenkot and Lapid so they’re clearly looking at the post-Netanyahu era.
The post-netanyahu era will look just like the netanyahu era, just like how US presidents will change but the military industrial complex marches along the same line.
Israeli history would say otherwise. When a leader is forced out, there is a change in government policy and position.
Well not for the past 75 years. They have been ethnically cleansing Palestinians and building illegal settlements on Palestinian internationally recognised land for decades. Not to mention the continuous oppression of Palestinians under their occupation and many other horrors.
We can start with Golda Meir and the Yom Kippur War, in 1973. It was thought by Israelis that she was taken by surprise. Israelis waited until the shooting stopped and forced her out in favor of Rabin who made peace and signed the Oslo Accords. Which was his undoing since it was the reason given for his assassination. There are other examples.
Hard agree. People want Biden to call for Netanyahu to get the Noreaga treatment. That’s not how displomacy works.
But this will be the end for Netanyahu, if Israel is to have any credibility. America has work to do on this front right now, too: by making sure that fat orange fuck that wants open war with Iran doesn’t get reelected, and end up killing tens of millions of people after the cascade of failed mid-east states that would follow.
Biden is SO CRITICAL of Israel that he’s ready to send them BILLIONS more dollars without Congressional Approval! THAT will teach Israel to STOP!
