• Cringe2793@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Well because the struggling people are blaming you when you don’t tip. They should blame the restaurant owner. But they blame the diner instead.

      That’s why people take servers/waiters as the “enemy”

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        Doesn’t matter who gets blamed, if things were corrupt the customer would be paying the same amount as tipping that much. Tipping culture just gives the customer a chance to shirk.

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          1 year ago

          Well if you are calling it “shirk” then it’s basically required. If it’s required why even give the illusion of a choice?

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            That’s my point. Tipping culture is stupid.

            Consumers should pay the cost to consume, including materials, operations and staffing.

            It’s not an illusion of choice, it is a choice, and a choice that abuses workers and confuses customers.

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              The thing is the consumers are paying the cost. The business owners are just taking more of the profits. They just need to pay the workers more.

              And the “choice” you mention is a false one. People can’t really refuse to pay a tip, can they? They’ll get a lot of hostility from the staff (who have been brainwashed to think that it’s the customers’ responsibility). Notice that this isn’t really a thing outside the US.

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      Disagree. Most servers and bartenders are in favor of tipping culture and want it to stay this way with zero wages and societally enforced tips.

      Yes, the corporations are the enemy, but these other struggling people are on the side of the actual enemy.