• MisterFrog@lemmy.world
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      I feel very grateful that I grew up in a non-veg household that still ate tofu. And now I am a tofu fiend.

      However, eggs are still far less impactful than beef, so, protein options still exist, not to mention all the nuts and beans out there.

      Also, what about vegetables? Though I admit these should be part of a diet no matter what your diet is, so doesn’t really count.

      It’s not all carbs in non-meat land, is all I’m saying.

      Power to you for whatever works for you though, no judgement.

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    I’m watching the new climate town video as I see this.

    Glad the media is still telling us it is our fault as consumers while industry and governments actively work against us.

    Yes eating plants is better for the environment and your body. Yes I try to eat mostly plants and I encourage you all to try it, but Capitalism is what is killing us and eating a salad isnt going to fix it.

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      Actually, quite the opposite. As long as you buy beef, cattle will continue to be a major driver of climate change. Under capitalism, it only gets produced because you buy it

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      The article literally says producers, consumers, and government are all part of it.

      We’ve gotten to the point that any mention of what an individual can do to reduce their carbon impact is met with “stop blaming us!”

      The reality is that we are all responsible and we all have to change, including individuals. You just don’t want to change, you want everyone else to. You are just like the rich person that says they care about global warming, as they turn around and jump on their private jet.

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        I agree it is all connected.
        I guess my complaint is the degree at which we as individuals make an impact vs Corporations and the Government. I could go completely carbon neutral tomorrow. Sustainably farm in the woods and never leave, but that wouldn’t touch the 6 million tons of Methane leaked from Natural Gas infrastructure this year.

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          Pretty much everyone and everything can point to a bigger polluter. The reality is that we all have to change. If every time we are given ways to change, we instead whine that there are worse than us…well, then, we’re just fucked.

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    Ya know what would also limit it: Actually stopping like the top 5 companies causing like 60% of all pollution.

    Just stop doing carbon credits because it’s a literal scam and just shut down any factory that pollutes more than an allowed amount until they get it under control.

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    I keep drifting back and forth between whole food plant based and vegetarian for about the past 13 years. I got no beef with meat eaters but I couldn’t imagine putting that into my mouth and the process of masticating it. Although on St Patrick’s Day looking at the corned beef sandwiches took me back in time for a brief moment.

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    You know what could also limit global heating? If the fucking wealthy stopped flying in their private jets and stopped cruising in their yachts and stopped buying their 3rd house. Focus on the solutions. Subsidize green energy, tax the oil companies, ban private jets, etc. You know, things that would have an actual impact.

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      Yep, sick of being told I’m the problem and should change my way of living when a single private flight dumps more CO2 into the air than my car puts out in half a year, not to mention the fuel usage.

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    I guess I’ve been a flexitarian since 2016ish. I have a few vegetarian days a week for environmental reasons.

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    For me being flexible help ramp down my consumption of meat. Each day without was a win. These days it’s very rare that I eat any meat. It’s become boring compared to the fun of a meatless diet.

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    I keep proposing the adoption of personal carbon credits, it would not be difficult to implement.

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    Are we doing this again?

    The are 100 companies are responsible for 70% of global emissions. States can test nuclear weapons in the Pacific Ocean; nah eat a salad for lunch.

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      And what do those companies produce? A lot of them make food. They don’t give a fuck as long as people keep eating insane amounts of meat.

      But if it makes you feel better, abdicate your personal responsibility and point the finger. But no matter how you vote, it won’t save the world as long as meat production is going up. They don’t raise the cows if you don’t buy the beef

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        Ah yes concrete manufacturers, one of the largest producers of greenhouse gasses, are only doing it because of meat eaters. Fun fact, the number one producer of greenhouse gasses in France isn’t an entire industry, there’s a single concrete factory that outweighs every other greenhouse gas producing industry in the country.

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            I never said that we shouldn’t fix anything, I was refuting your point that we only produce so many greenhouse gasses because we eat so much meat when that just isn’t the case.

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              It’s totally the case. Beef is one of the worst products out there because it produces methane, one of the worst GHGs pound for pound.

              There’s also incredible inefficiencies with beef, since it takes more calories to raise than any other type of meat (or, god forbid, just growing plants and eating them). This isn’t really a matter of opinion, it’s just the reality of climate change

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                Please just read what you’re responding to properly. I KNOW CATTLE FARMING PRODUCES GREENHOUSE GASSES. You were saying that if people stopped eating meat then almost all of the carbon emissions would stop but like I said that isn’t the case because some of the worst producers (like concrete manufacturers or fossil fuel companies) don’t care what you eat. Even if everyone stopped eating any form of animal products and we just culled all of the livestock worldwide, unless you want to revert to buildings from the 1600s those companies are still going to be emitting insane amounts of greenhouse gasses.

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        That’s not a joke. I don’t like animals, they drive me crazy, and I think they’re disgusting. Since they’re disgusting I don’t want their flesh in me.

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    All this pussy shit about changing our entire eating schedule to reduce emissions by .01% is fucking dumb. The main problem is western habits and our dumb intake of everything! If the entirety of the US and EU disappeared overnight then emissions would drop by more than 75% even though the West doesn’t even make up 10% of the world population.

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      All this pussy shit about attacking one of the worst emitting industries on the planet? Ig im a huge pussy because I love fighting climate change

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        Beef itself isn’t the part that’s emitting. It’s all the transportation and handling and resources the beef needs. You can stop buying beef to lower emissions sure but you can’t replace eating beef with just eating more other shit that might also emit just as much.