Trump can have one more felony, as a treat

  • foggy@lemmy.world
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    I’m so glad he pissed off the army before trying to stage his second coup.

    Good luck asshat.

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      He pissed off the 60% of the army who already knew what a disgusting failure of a human he is.

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      The US military is aggressively non-political. Don’t count on them to do anything as long as the civilian institutions do nothing.

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        That’s not the point. The Military is no longer a tool he could use. Staying neutral unless things get really bad is a good thing. He’s already tried to use the military against protestors. (And the military told him to pound sand)

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          Am I crazy? I distinctly remember a military helicopter hovering quite low over protesters in a city and that very much didn’t feel like them telling trump to ‘pound sand’

          Yeah, not crazy: https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/28/politics/pentagon-national-guard-helicopter-dc-protests/index.html

          I appreciate the army’s attempts at trying to stay neutral but from my perspective they were already complicit in the trump regime and I have no faith that they would be any different if he gets another shot.

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            You’re not crazy. The thing is there’s a difference between the national guard and the regular army. The national guard is used to control protests all the time by state governors. In D.C. Trump gets to act as that governor. What Trump wanted was a regular army Infantry division with lethal weapons. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs actually got into a shouting match with Trump over the issue.

            When he couldn’t have that toy he tried to tell the National Guard to use live ammo without actually ordering it. He told them to use “all available means” to protect federal property. The National Guard however has trained extensively against using live ammo in protests since May 4, 1970. So they used every non-lethal method they knew, including the down wash of their medevac helicopters. Which the Pentagon later said not to do again as they consider that to be against the regulations for medevac helicopters.

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          Just means they can be deployed against traitors, not that they have the authority, or consider themselves to have the authority, to make the judgement on who is and is not traitorous.

          Civilian control of the military is a good thing. But it also means that any thought of the military as a safeguard against any tyranny that worms its way in through civilian institutions is… misguided.

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            May seem sad, but in fact good if really works this way.

            Since I’m in Russia and here shit went wrong (EDIT: after the last time shit went right) since Yeltsin using military to “resolve” a constitutional crisis in 1993 (not really a crisis, just when the Supreme Court says both Yeltsin and his opponents in the parliament should resign and have new parliament and presidential elections, that apparently is a crisis, because he’s the president, thus the boss and should be able to make all decisions ; that unironically was the main argument in support of Yeltsin, ex-Soviet people have a very weird idea of law and order, where the boss deciding something is “dura lex sed lex”, while referring to codified laws is “legal illiteracy”).

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    Honestly, those families of fallen soldiers can go fuck themselves. They dishonor the memory of their children that made the ultimate sacrifice for this country. They don’t get to invite Trump to wipe his ass all over the graves of soldiers. Their children deserve respect, but they deserve scorn.

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      This was my thought as well. Can you really have loved your family member if you sell them cheaply to be used as political fodder? Is that what their memory is worth to you?

      This is the same level of disaffection that you saw from the pa firefighter widow who wouldn’t accept a phone call from Biden.

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      Oh, it’s even worse than that. My understanding is that the families that invited him are specifically families of soldiers who died during the pullout from Afghanistan. Y’know, the pullout that Trump announced out of the blue with zero prep work in the last year of his presidency and dumped on Biden’s lap. They are celebrating the man directly responsible for their kids’ deaths.

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    Everyone posting quotes from the trump side, so here’s what the Army said:

    “This incident was unfortunate, and it is also unfortunate that the ANC employee and her professionalism has been unfairly attacked. ANC is a national shrine to the honored dead of the Armed Forces, and its dedicated staff will continue to ensure public ceremonies are conducted with the dignity and respect the nation’s fallen deserve,” the statement said.

    So the Army sided with the people at the cemetery, and tge following paragraphs indicate the Pentagon does as well.

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    The US Army published a measured response to the implicated poor behavior of an on duty servicewoman at ANC.

    The Army would very much object to this being categorized as “against” Trump. Rather in defense of their service members and their correct actions.

    The Army is careful not to overextend itself on political rhetoric and invite too much politics directly.

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      Yeah for them to say this much is a big deal considering they like to stay out of this stuff. It’s pretty much a harsh repudiation coming from them.

  • Ech@lemm.ee
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    Lol. Dude most likely to attempt a coup in the US just pissed off the armed forces. You love to see it.

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      Not only that — what is the penalty for violating Section 60?

      The army acts like the employee being assaulted was the only issue.

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    Where can I read in full what the army said? I couldn’t find anything in their official press releases