In-N-Out Burger says it will close its first location in its 75-year history due to a wave of car break-ins, property damage, theft and robberies affecting customers and employees alike at its only restaurant in Oakland, California.
The fast-food burger joint in a busy corridor near Oakland International Airport will close on March 24 because even though the company has taken “repeated steps to create safer conditions our Customers and Associates are regularly victimized,” Denny Warnick, In-N-Out’s chief operating officer, said in a statement Wednesday.
Oaklander here. Shit has really gone downhill over the past decade. Tents started popping up about 15 years ago, and now some parts of town honestly make District 9 look nice. I see stuff in this down that I never thought I would see in an American city.
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Context: this is what I drive through to get to the hardware store. This street view is 3 years old. It’s actually worse now.
I clicked that thinking it would look like the bad parts of Paris. I was not expecting the bad parts of Fallout
Jesus fuck
My guess is that the map view folks are too scared to go back now. That thing is 3 years old.
There’s actually a reason for it. The western Supreme Court (the court you go through before the US Supreme Court) made a ruling about a decade ago that all unhoused people can’t be removed from somewhere if there aren’t enough beds in the city for all unhoused people. So basically we can move guy #5 because there aren’t enough beds in shelters for 2,752 homeless people. Recently even Gavin Newsom was asking them to repeal the decision and was banding together with other western state governors and city mayors as they all say the ruling is unfair.
Having been homeless myself, referring to homeless people as “uNhOuSEd” does absolutely nothing but make you feel a tiny bit more morally superior
You’re making zero difference
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Crazy how a place with so much wealth can have so many people living in destitute.
I guess that’s what we get when we’re just passing a bunch of money around at the top.
All that wealth is owned by a minuscule fraction of the population. The rest of the 99% are poor.
I get tired of hearing that America is a wealthy country. It’s not the people that are wealthy. It’s just 1% of the population that is wealthy. The rest are poor and just a single missed pay check from being on the street like the people in this photo.
Relatively speaking, Americans are wealthy af.
You should take a look at the rest of the world.
the one creates the other. the middle class is being gutted by the super rich, while congress is paid handsomely to do nothing about anything.
Contextualizing it with District 9 really paints a bleak dystopia
It’s true. I drove truck down there. It literally looks like a warzone. There are clothes lines just hanging from cars everywhere in between tracks for cable cars. RVs on fire. Fires in trunks. It’s like Robocop from the 80s was real. Stay the fuck away from International (used to be E14). It’s not a good place.
I am willing to risk my life for the Sinaloa trucks in that part of town. If that’s how I go, so be it.
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I used to do a taco crawl on my birthday. We’d walk international at night and get a taco at like 6 places. Last time I did that was about 7 or 8 years ago. I might only do it in the day now.
Sinaloa has a place on Telegraph now, and that is a lot less sketchy. But it’s also not quite as good as the truck.
I lived there from 2009 to 2016 and loved it. Was really cool, even though I lived in Ghost Town on San Pablo, no body ever fucked with me or my GF. I came back after 3 years abroad and was devastated to see how bad it became. Then I went back in the “post” pandemic and I could not believe my fucking eyes that it was even worse. Dramatically worse. Tbf so is San Jose and SF.
I’m hoping the Governor wins that court case and we can start to actually put people in our unused shelter beds.
I honestly think that this kind of change is a big part of why my mom became radicalized into MAGA. The area she just moved away from was already bad when she moved there, but it went down hill in a similar way. Over the same time period, she began blaming liberal policies for the problems and became someone who says that Fox News is too liberal and sends me links to the Gateway Pundit as proof for things she believes.
Holy shit that is awful, this country is a dumpster fire.
Hey, on the bright side, some of those RVs are beachfront property!
There’s not much beach in that area. And the surrounding waterways are dominated by one of America’s largest commercial ports.
Why not hire a security guard? This sounds like some packaged bullshit trying to blame downsizing on crime, just like CVS did a couple years ago.
Oaklander here. Crime might be down nationwide, but it is up a LOT here. It’s quite sad. Big franchises aside, a lot of small local businesses haven’t been able to withstand the crime wave. Lots of my favorite mom and pop places are closing up and saying that they just can’t deal with the cost and stress of continued robbery / burglary.
But as for this place, there are cameras and guards in that lot, as well as employees taking orders. People still smash and grab, even in broad daylight.
This part of town is really struggling, by the airport, and thieves know the rental cars are almost guaranteed to have luggage. No one that lives here is shocked by this news. This is not Walgreens locking up soap in a place with dropping crime. This area is legitimately struggling with some big problems.
Wow, you weren’t kidding. What is wrong with Oakland?
This seems pretty non scientific. Crime stats are hard. The only organization that even comes close is the FBI and only because states are required to submit certain reporting.
Ok, here’s the FBI’s stats from 2019:
Violent crime rate per population:
Los Angeles: 0.73% Oakland: 1.25%
So it’s close to twice the crime rate of Los Angeles.
One year of crime stats doesn’t measure change. Your argument is that the crime rate went up. You would need to provide numbers for at least ten years and ideally 20 or 30 to say anything about crime trends.
If you try and reply again be sure to include the metrics for which crimes went up, and which ones went down in the years you’re concerned with. I think you’ll find virtually everywhere in America is the same, and that violent crime has been on a consistent downward trend for the past thirty years and property and drug crimes have occasional spikes that track concurrently with significant economic disruptions.
Causes and solutions to criminal behavior are not a mystery. The only reason crime is still a significant problem in America is because on half of the voting public can’t hold back their emotions and insist on using criminal justice to exact revenge, rather than rehabilitate and prevent.
I wasn’t arguing that crime is up in Oakland, that was the other guy. I’m just shocked at how bad Oakland is compared to the rest of California. California is a really nice place to live, so I’m surprised that one of our cities is that bad.
Oh word.
Yeah it is, just like all that shit about how retail stores last year having to close because of crime AS CRIME WAS FUCKING PLUMMETING
Crime is NOT plummeting in Oakland. Quite the opposite.
I live here and have been in the area for decades. It’s legitimately bad now, and that parking lot is a shit show.
*reported crime.
At some point, store workers give up on calling in for your average shoplifter.
was crime really plummeting at a time when we were seeing a slew of security videos showing mass amounts of organized smash-and-grabs all over California?
social media can let people believe what they want, but the retail org that claimed closed stores were from shoplifting retracted their claims after it was revealed they were unsourced hearsay. Most closures have been from low sales in office districts since remote work expanded
social media
no, It was security camera footage
the retail org that claimed closed stores were from shoplifting retracted their claims after it was revealed they were unsourced hearsay
yeah I read that article too. It was one article.
vs several clips of security footage showing increased incidences of smash-and-grabs from dozens of different retail stores
sure they closed cracker barrels and Walmarts and Targets and CVS stores in all the high-crime areas due to “low sales in office districts since remote work expanded.” sure.
Is that the same reason those same stores we go to now have most of the products displayed behind locked cases which necessitates customers tracking down an employee just to purchase a pair of hair clipping scissors? Yes I kid you not, I wanted to buy a pair of hair clipping scissors from a Walmart in California a couple years ago and it was locked behind a case and I had to track down an employee just to purchase a pair of scissors that were locked behind a plexiglass case.
do they keep all that merchandise locked behind a plexiglass case due to “low sales in office district since remote work expanded?” or due to increased incidences of theft?
the crime stats and lost goods in those stores were not particularly exceptional. What was exceptional was low sales at those stores.
often when you get a clip, you don’t even know what the date is. I’ve seen people post shit from the 1980s saying it was yesterday. Clips show that something happened somewhere at some point, not that rates are going up or down.
And Target! I hate having to call someone to unlock the fucking toothpaste.
I lived near a CVS that was constantly targeted for crime. It’s closing this month, and I honestly can’t imagine how it stayed open this long.
You can pretend it’s packaged bullshit, but until you live in a city and experience it first-hand, you’ll stay in your pretty make-believe world.
They charge 85% markup on consumer shit.
They aren’t closing because of crime. The ration of stolen items to sold items would have to be like 10 to 1.
If half of their daily sales walked out the back door, they’d still be making money hand over fist.
Idk, looking in from the outside adding a security guard usually ends up with someone dying in the US. Either the security guard tries to be John wick but ends up being a Paul blart or the security guard is a waste of salary as they go “why would I risk my life, fuck that.”.
At best it would be a deterrent to young kids who get cocky.
Nah. There are security guards everywhere and most of them don’t ever kill anyone.
You just said it yourself, “most”
I agree it’s the wild West over here with guns and gun nuts but for the number of security guards compared to the number of shootings they do, they aren’t a significant portion of them. They are way fewer cops, and way more police shootings.
I’m more worried about security guards getting shot than them shooting ngl
I came in here to call bullshit. Then I saw it was in Oakland. Nvrmnd. Carry on.
Naw, we will still defend Oakland. Reading here, I see crime is down more than ever. It’s the corporations just wanting to make to much money.
Are police officers blaming all the defunding efforts that actually never happened yet?
The cops cannot move them because the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals found it unconstitutional to move them.
In and out owner was denying COVID procedure at a point, right? Suspect this is less warranted action and just another nut job carrying water for the crazy, hate machine on the right.
Didn’t I hear this location was right by the A’s stadium, and the A’s are leaving, correct?
So maybe a business failing being covered by “out of control crime” just like how target and the retail Association got caught lying about the stores they were closing the to “out of control crime”. Then it turns out… Oh, each of the stores they marked to close actually had other nearby target stores with higher reported crime rates, but what the stores marked for closure DID have in common was that they had lower sales.
Retail boils down to a real estate speculation guessing game. Executives are typically unqualified, privileged pretenders . They made the wrong guesses on store location, because they are incompetent, and now they are exploiting this moment - just like they price gouge through COVID. It’s all a play to cover their failures.
Lol, oakland.
Oakland should get a police department.
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I don’t think anyone here is under the illusion that fixing policing in this country, let alone Oakland, is a simple task.
Maybe it’s a cultural issue.
If the people living in oakland want to behave like animals, then they can live like animals.
