Summary
Donald Trump declared on Truth Social that he was voiding Joe Biden’s pardons for Jan. 6 committee members, calling them “VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT.”
He claimed Biden’s use of an autopen made the pardons invalid, citing unproven claims from The Heritage Foundation. Legal experts note that a president cannot revoke a predecessor’s pardons.
Biden issued them to shield officials from politically motivated investigations.
Trump, who has repeatedly threatened prosecutions, accused the committee members of wrongdoing and suggested they be investigated.
What’s gone stop him from sending his goons to arrest political opponents? They’re at the ignoring the courts step in the process right now.
That’s the unfortunate truth; once a court order is not enforced, you are already past the point of no return. One of two things follow, either a new dictatorship, or blood.
Court order not enforced and no reaction from the public. Why would they stop?
FTFY: “Court order not enforced and no reaction from the
publicelected officials that are meant to represent the public. Why would they stop?”Dont put your future into other peoples hands. Its your future and rights that are at stake.
I understand your sentiment and it is especially poignant these days, but that is literally the only reason they exist in the first place. If we need to take action (which I agree has now reached that point) their position should be eliminated as they have made themselves redundant.
If you want to have future elections and chose better candidates, this is the time to act.
Court order not enforced and no reaction from the public.
Er… There have been numerous protests and outrage at GOP townhalls and other places
Learn with the french
The public is mostly powerless as long as the regime is willing to point and use firearms. thats their go-to card.
you can bet that the regime is also planning on giving out military equipment for fighting against crowds too, tear gas, firehoses, and microwave / sonic weapons like what was seen in Serbia recentley.
you can bet that the regime is also planning on giving out military equipment for fighting against crowds too, tear gas, firehoses, and microwave / sonic weapons
Hate to break it to you, but our police have been militarized with military gear for decades. During the massive George Floyd protests in 2020, the police used all of those weapons against crowds (except microwave, but they definitely used some type of sonic/sound crowd control weapons).
the militarized police thing isnt news to anyone who hasnt been living under a rock.
whats new though is the rolling out of those microwave / sonic weapons, In the event of mass protests, I would expect at the very least, US Police forces / military uses those against protestors and rioters. (thats assuming they aren’t just shooting to kill)
What’s gone stop him from sending his goons to arrest political opponents?
The fact that his political opponents are already toothless.
Boot licking allies is the term you are looking for.
Nothing. I can see the future and I see what everybody is refusing to believe - Trump will not be gone in 4 years. Congress can’t hold him to account (because half of them are collaborators) and the court’s orders can’t be enforced. Best we’ll get is a stern tut-tut from Democrats while more and more rights will slip away at an alarming pace. Sure, the constitution SAYS you have the right to certain things, but if Trump violates those rights by ordering people below him to carry out unconstitutional acts, who will come save you? Not congress, not the judiciary, not the SCOTUS, not the police, not the military.
We’re fucked. It’s over.
So if auto pens mean that the document isn’t valid, does that mean the same thing for DocuSign, or other e signatures?
Does this mean that billions of contracts and documents signed this way are null and void?
How is DocuSign supposed to be a signature anyway? It’s not your handwriting, and there’s no cryptographic proof either.
Check out e-signatures like we do them in Estonia. The document has a cryptographic signature belonging to the person who signed it, with a date. Change the file in the container and the signature is no longer valid. It makes physical signatures pretty much obsolete because it’s easy to use and WAY easier to prove that the signature is not fake.
There are issues of course - someone who knows your PIN2 could steal your device and sign something before you can get the certificate revoked. You do need to keep your PINs secure.
Considering how lazy he is I don’t know if he wants to set a precedent for all government documents signed with an auto-pin being invalid. Not that precedent has ever mattered for republicans
Everybody go on social media and proclaim Trump isn’t president. Musk’s kid said so
Spoken out loud in the oval office. Sounds official to me!
Hilarious to bemoan autopen when this senile imbecile is signing everything looking like Hammmmmmmy Sammmmmiieeess.
I declare bankruptcy!
There’s nothing that says Presidential Pardons need to be in writing. Biden just had to direct the right people to offer a pardon to an individual which can then be accepted or declined. That can be verbal, electronically communicated, or in writing, but a signature from the President is just a formality and definitely not required, so the autopen/esign argument is a totally dead argument.
Just more criminal conduct from the felon in chief.
