Summary

Elon Musk blamed trans people for recent Tesla attacks after his daughter, Vivian Jenna Wilson, called him a “pathetic man-child.”

Musk shared false data on trans violence and claimed hormone therapy causes volatility. He linked trans identity to attacks on Tesla cars and dealerships, citing unverified reports of trans suspects.

Musk’s comments followed Wilson’s interview where she condemned his far-right shift and disavowed responsibility for his views.

Critics accused Musk of scapegoating trans people amid Tesla’s financial decline and political controversies.

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      19 days ago

      Even that has a more logical throughline.

      It’s like getting rained on and then saying the food stamp program caused the weatherman to form a rain cloud over your head.

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    One of the Umberto Eco’s 14 signs of fascism: Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”

    The other sigs

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    I guess he better watch out then, if trans people got that much power over people. Maybe he needs to check his fuckin tone…

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        Yeah that’s why I’m not telling my grandma my actual reason I’m quitting my job and moving to a blue state. Fortunately it’s something everyone kinda expected me to eventually do.

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    Now that the Trump administration is treating Tesla vandalism as domestic terrorism, Musk has connected Trans people to domestic terrorism.

    Whether or not he meant to (I don’t know if his Ketamine and amphetamine addled brain even comprehends cause and effect), this is a stated goal of Project 2025: criminalizing Trans people.

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      An argument I read recently is that the Nazi plan for gay and trans people wasn’t “genocide” per se. It was a mental health issue or deficiency to be cured. More a project of conversion therapy. In effect, it was wanton slaughter and being a “pink triangle” prisoner was about as bad as you could get, but Himmler had ideas like having gay men fuck prostitutes in the camps (women promised a better life than Ravensbrück - they’d end up on the trains to Auschwitz after). Like you could supposedly be cured, so the goal would be to fix you before giving up and eliminating you, at least in theory.

      They’ll have trans people declared mentally ill for being trans and institutionalized. The institutionalization won’t have the goal of killing us, but the people put in charge of caring for us will exploit their power. We will be sexually abused, chemically castrated, and physically abused. This will happen under the appearance of mental health treatment, so it will be invisible.

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        They’re trying to make not liking Trump a mental illness in one state so far, they’re absolutely going to make being Trans a mental illness.

        Although with Musk connecting being Trans with attacking Teslas, and the Trump administration treating attacking Teslas as domestic terrorism, I could absolutely foresee Trans people eventually being sent to CECOT and never leaving.

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          They’re trying to make not liking Trump a mental illness in one state so far

          The sponsor (a Republican) has been arrested for soliciting a minor, and MN’s governor would have vetoed it anyway. That was just bigotry-signalling to toady to Trump. I’m sure they’ll try again, but that instance had no chance of success even before its author got done for allegedly being a nonce.

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            They don’t have to pass laws for both cops and psychs in southern states to view being trans or leftist as an institutionalizable mental illness.

            There are tons of shrinks that would happily come up with something else to call “Trump derangement syndrome” and in these southern states, there is almost no state oversight for mental health care.

            (Fuck, even when it comes to children - I was talking to a journalist about my work trying to get a group home shut down - said he had been writing about it for years but the state doesn’t give a shit.)

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        Himmler probably wanted to “cure” gay people, then draft them into the military. And also it’s wrong to assume that there was a rational basis for Nazi “science.” Much of it was pseudoscience that’d make RFK Jr’s idiocy look rigorous in comparison.

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          The point was that it was flexible.

          Rohm was okay because he was useful. After he was out of the picture, all homosexuals were bad. (But at the same time - the way many gay men survived the camps was basically becoming a sex slave to someone with more power. It’s that classic “it’s only gay to suck someone else’s dick, not to get your dick sucked.”)

          Near the end of the war, they just needed bodies for the front. The “werewolfs” were basically going to be sent to die against Russian partisans.

          Fascism is inherently self-contradictory. That’s the point. It’s about who has to follow the rules, not what the rules are.

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      I’m all for tesla dealership vandalism, but doesn’t it pretty much fit the bill as terrorism? It’s violence against noncombatants to achieve political aims. Whether we agree with it or not doesn’t really change that definition.

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    trans people’s fault that cis people are burning Tesla cars

    Elonia is trying to tell us something.

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    Obvious troll scapegoating bullshit to shift blame from his fascist anti-humanist stance that empathy is weakness and not the old idiotic misconception of mistaking kindness for weakness. Go back to playing with forks.

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    Wonder how much better off the country would be if Elon and his daughter could reconcile.

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      It would be 100% of Musk suddenly making a genuine effort to be a good person. It’s not on his daughter’s shoulders so it’s not like there are “two good people who just need to communicate”. If he actually worried about being a good person then of course the country would be better off because d’uh.

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      He has always been a sociopathic, narcistic asshole. His sociopathy just latched onto the transgender thing.

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      imossible, hes a narccissit like trump, and he lied about his first childs death, being in his arms.

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      hes projecting, he has no issues with caitlyn jenner, they did a photo op together.

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    I really don’t want to hold tesla drivers responsible for that degenerate. Having said that the tesla driver who tried to go around me yesterday as the lane was closing and nearly got me involved in a collision with a oncoming cement truck can fuck right off. I’m sure there are many more just like them.

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      i was in passenger side an tesla was changing lanes without indicating on a freeway about to exit, they just abruptly did it in the middle switching lanes, so dangerous. with traffic behind and in front where he was switching and no indicating signals they are essentially the new mercedes/bmw drivers. we had a mercedes driving pull a insurance fraud/scam on both parked cars(accused of scratching his front bumper, after he saw the friends car back had some unspecified scratches). he was able to convince his insurance that it was the person i know’s fault.

      the cybertruck people ive seen are so embarrsed i think they hide thier heads with the roof of the car so people cant see how douchey they are.