• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    That is one of Germanys foreign politics problems that for historic reasons it cannot critizise whatever Israel does. If they started beheading children in Jerusalem or bombed orphanages, the German government will turn a blind eye.

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    I’m inclined to believe they have the expertise and experience to make this claim.

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      In a world where they don’t have their own agenda (e.g. military income), I’d agree.

      In THIS world, where the AfD has a considerable voice and the government blocks itself on gender inclusive language and rather does nothing, I don’t. Let’s not call it genocide, then we don’t have to act. Let’s not be too hasty about Putin so we don’t have to send any help. Let’s think about weed legalization for half a decade to be sure.

      I think they’re being obstructive on purpose.

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        Ofc they are being obstructive on purpose.

        War is good business.

        So are illegal drugs.

        Politicians are often on the side of “what makes the most money to the people who give me money”, I’ve found. Wish it weren’t so.

  • Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.worldOP
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    In hindsight this should have been posted in the political meme section not here.

    My apologies, I’m new to lemmy. Thank you for your patience yall, I’ll do better.

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    They should just give all of Palestine to Israel and be done with it. Give the Palestinians reservations in the US or Canada and just let the Jews live in peace. It’s not like Israel is going to cause any problems since it would have all of Israel for itself at that point.

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      They should just give all of Palestine to Israel and be done with it.

      It already is Israeli territory. There is no state of Palestine. Attempts to formalize statehood were vetoed by the US on Israel’s request. Israel opposes Palestinian statehood. There are two formally autonomous regions on Israeli ground, West Bank and Gaza, but those aren’t states.

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      Ah yes, complete the ethnic cleansing of the region… What a wonderfully ethical suggestion /s

      Absolutely deranged take.

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      Just give all of Israel to Palestine. It belongs to the Palestinian people. The former Israelis can live in Palestine–there were already Palestinian Jews–but they do not deserve an Israeli government, and ought to give the Palestinians their homes back.

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        Forgot to say: Is your username “cumskin_genocide”? I’m not using it as an argument, just amused

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      Youre gonna have to be a bit more specific in your defense. They have been killing all Palestinians, have been saying that all Palestinians are Hamas (including kids), and have said multiple times they want to wipe them off the face of the earth.

      How is that not genocide?

      Benjamin Netanyahu has in recent days called on politicians to choose “their words carefully” so as not to give ammunition ahead of the hearing in The Hague, Vaturi on Wednesday reaffirmed his calls to “wipe Gaza off the face of the earth,” and added: “Gaza must be burned.” “I stand behind my words… It is better to burn down buildings rather than have [Israeli] soldiers harmed. There are no innocents there,” he said in a radio interview before calling for the “elimination” of the estimated 100,000 Palestinians left in northern Gaza. “I have no mercy for those who are still there. We need to eliminate them,” added Vaturi, who belongs to Likud, the right-wing party led by Netanyahu.

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        They are 2 million in gaza. Hamas (oh so trustworthy source…) says Israel killed over 30000 thousand.

        That’s 1.5%.

        Palestinians are near extinction I tell you!

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          It’s about the intent

          the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group

          That’s still a large number of people, and we don’t have to wait until it’s a significant percentage of them to call it a genocide. Make up your own word if you mean something else, this is genocide (successful or not and the extent of it is left to be seen).

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        If there was an intent to destroy Gaza and all it’s inhabitants Israel would have done so already. I probably need to see more justification than some emotional outburst a few days after getting terror attacked and israeli citizens kidnapped.

        Your arguments are weak. Yes there is a sad situation where a lot of Palestinians are dying but it’s not a genocide.

        • blitzkrieg@lemm.ee
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          What do you call ethnically cleansing and starving an entire population? Is that not genocide?

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            I think Lemmy likes perpetuating a particular propaganda that keeps reiterating the same talking points until they are engraved in your brain. Genocide is an extremely specific judgement that requires both evidence of specific intent and specific action. You can make claims to one but not to both. The intent doesn’t match the action.

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              So saying “wipe Gaza off the face of the Earth” followed by almost continuous bombardment isn’t in your eyes evidence of specific intent and action, because they haven’t wiped them out yet? Therefore, by your own definition, the colonizing Europeans never commited genocide against the indigenous American population, because there’s still native Americans left and they have their own nature reserves to reside in?

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                It was literally like 1 day after an invasion. You need to recognize that emotions came to play.

                As for your genocide of indigenous Americans, it’s a completely different topic. Don’t whatabout here please.

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                  That’s not whataboutism is lol.

                  He’s not defending/minimizing doing something by pointing out the others have also done it… he’s comparing 2 situations, and saying that the definition of genocide is not limited to extinction.

    • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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      When your argument is trying to explain the technical definition of genocide, you’ve lost the fucking argument, it’s a genocide.

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        Technically you aren’t brain dead but some might say you are brain dead. Is that the same thing?

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    As a German: I think it really is not our job to criticise Israel/the jewish people. There are about 200 other countries that are capable of voicing their opinions. I seriously doubt Hamas left Israel much of a choice, though. They are still keeping and mistreating hostages. What is Israel supposed to do? Passively standing by and watching their hostages being impregnated?

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    Germany, are you going to be responsible for EVERY FUCKING World War you humans fight in!?! Liiiike feck.