I think most Dems, especially those who are highly politically engaged and closely follow election news, are going to vote blue no matter who. So, I think Bernie is preaching to the choir here. I think the Dems who are worried about Biden are worried he doesn’t have enough support among independents, and they feel independents are much less likely to just vote for the Democrat, no matter who it is.
Now, could just any candidate replace Biden and automatically win back any of the independents he is believed to have lost? I don’t know. A lot of Dems seem to think that just about any other candidate would do better than Biden among independents right now, but I’m not so sure.
Remember, Bernie Sanders did FORTY TWO events for Hillary after she was the chosen Dem candidate. More events than even she did for her own campaign!
Then she had this to say about Bernie in her Hulu doc: https://x.com/bobby/status/1236349383890931713
Oh, now I understand. She’s like, a real housewife of DC.
Hillary “I believe marriage is between a man and a woman” Clinton. Yeah. Keep on satisfying those poor, misguided progressives.
I think the other concern is voter turnout/enthusiasm. The last presidential election had extremely high turnout. Even if voters (in swing states) don’t switch candidates but opt to stay home instead that could translate into a significant electoral problem too.
Or stop bickering and replace him ASAP.
But really, I don’t think this is bickering. I think it’s an intentionally slow drip of news to get people more receptive to the idea of replacing him with Kamala, so that it’s not a bomb dropping all of a sudden, which would likely freak out a bunch of voters and cause them to lose votes. Boil the frog slowly and there’s less of a splash.
Well honestly it’s going to be a splash either way and the sooner they replace him, the better. Kamala is going to need more time to cook with and the sooner she can get out there, the sooner she can challenge Trump to a debate and flip this country around.
I think this is the exact idea that Bernie is warning against.
Wishful thinking from Bernie. For fucks sake:
politics is showmanship, not an intellectual endeavor.
I fucking hate that, but it is the immutable truth.
You NEED a charismatic leader to win. Biden needs to fuck off.
I will ALWAYS cast my vote to most effectively suppress the republican traitor filth. But Biden’s a goner.
Exactly. I cannot fucking believe he can say with a straight face that it’s not an entertainment contest. It’s the biggest American Idol contest there is and sure as shit isn’t a job interview.
I will ALWAYS cast my vote to most effectively suppress the republican traitor filth. But Biden’s a goner.
If by goner, you mean you’re not voting for him- then this is contradictory.
I will vote D no matter what.
That’s good to see. Thank you! Hopefully we can have some good things happen by next election and get someone better by then.
Drumpf is a living survivor martyr. Nothing is now gonna hold anything back. Every thing is now going to hit the fan.
A thought I haven’t seen offered much, but could give Biden an ego-soothing role instead of being put out to political pasture - a Harris:Biden ticket.
She gets to be the energetic go-getter at the front (that the Maga hate-oil salesmen are shrieking about atm) while Biden can play the ‘elder statesman’ role of advice and experience to Kamala instead of running himself. You defuse a lot of the competency/decline arguments against Biden, and gird against one of Harris’s biggest threats - her lack of international experience.
Kamala is not a political unknown, but Biden is losing/equal right now to Trump with the DNC money & publicity machine working for him the last eight years. I’d argue Harris has a better shot if those efforts are swung her way. I don’t like Harris, but needn’t convince me to vote team blue - it’s the ~9% undecided we need to convince.
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What happened to letting the voters decide?
“Everyone needs to get out and vote!”
voters start bickering over who to vote for
“NOT LIKE THAT!”
If the man is too old, OK, but we all knew his age a year ago.
Which is why its crazy he didn’t have any kind of primary contender. Hell, its crazy he didn’t just wrap this at one term and pass the torch to any of a number of popular and highly competent governors.
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Kamala - Bernie. Let it happen you fucks!
No, biden then bernie. Its the only way bernie would be president
Fucking thank you, Bernie. Glad someone with a spine said it.
It’s nice to see the majority of the democrats are reasonable people and will continue backing Biden.
tbh, I don’t think reasonable people would think an 80yr old is the best fit to run a country. Edit: Especially after publicly shitting the bed on multiple occasions
Isn’t he 81?
Idk it just looks like one candle at this point
Jeez, I’ve had smaller bonfires.
Yes, he’s 81. He’ll be 82 November 20th. 86 at the end of his second term if he’s re-elected.
When he’s re-elected.
It’s looking a little scary chief…
But a 78 year old is?
That’s not the question at hand. Trump should die in a fire, but that’s not what this is about.
That is what this is about. Because if everyone that is wanting people to not vote for the 81 year old get their way- then we’re getting the 78 year old.
THESE ARE OUR CHOICES. it’s too late in the game to call an audible.
Haha, no. Many other problems with that cesspool.
Does Bernie want to lose?
The opinion piece: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/13/opinion/joe-biden-president.html
All the socialist’s heads just exploded.
