Got banned off redit for using an alt to comment on publicfreakout which I was supposedly banned from, glad this place is still left leaning, but I would rather not have a bubble like reddit either, it gets annoying and isn’t representative of the world like it should be.
The comment was literally just “isnt the wind blowing towards the ocean” made it without even knowing I was banned on my main from publicfreakout, alts are allowed, so this is such an easy mistake to make there, you can get banned from any popular sub and unknowingly comment with an alt, automatically denied appeal too
id understand if I was being controversial, but it was literally such a boring aimless comment
Jesus Christ so many of you on here are in love with your echo chambers aren’t you? Every other day there is something about instance wars and oh let’s see, whom do we want to exclude today. You don’t have to like what others have to say, but you have to be able to listen to them.
but you have to be able to listen to them.
Not when they’re absolute shit takes, hate speech, denial of basic facts, misinformation, propaganda or intolerance we don’t.
Right-wingers have long abandoned sensible debates for hate and anger, pointless “identity politics” and sucking off Trump
Tankies refuse to accept any and all criticism of the totally-not authoritarian Chinese/Russian governments no matter what facts and evidence is presented to them
You act like we only exist on this forum. Some of us have conservative family members and coworkers that we have to hear from constantly. You have to hear a none stop spew of hateful bullshit and the moment you voice any disagreement, they start shouting at you.
They have very few ideas, none of them are new and I’ve already heard every single one.
No you don’t. Fascists shouldn’t be given time of day. People who don’t act with integrity or good faith don’t get to sit with civilized society. The ideas aren’t valid and don’t have any merit. They come from uneducated people who have had their head filled with hate and prejudice. They’re not good citizens or decent people. They’re hate filled time bombs. They’re so mentally weak they gave into hating other people based on prejudices talking heads have them.
They don’t get a seat. They’re opinion is not valid. They should be ostracized by all civilized society until they stop being antisocial and destructive.
And that’s the nice, merciful and patient option.
Tankies are right wing
Ehh not really.
Economically: The pro China ones can sometimes be pro market-ish. However, I’ve seen some of them talk about how Xi Jinping is making China have a more and more planned economy day by day. As for the pro USSR n North Korea ones, I’ve seen them range from hard anti-market to having teeny tiny sympathy for a very small, heavily state controlled market.
Socially: I’ve seen many trans ppl on hexbear. Aaaand I’ve also seen ppl claim transgenderism itself to being bourgeoisie manufactured fake science to distract the population from the real issue- class warfare. HOWEVER, I have seen none of them defending religious beliefs or ideals.
Therefore, the only thing similar that they share with right wingers, is that their political structures would over time evolve into stateful, classful, authoritarian systems.
Oh, and yeah- they both really love strongmen…
Unfortunately, the Blue would be shaking hands with the Conservative.
Hexbear literally promoted Trump before the 2024 election. Tankies love Maga.
They’re is no definition of conservative that would apply to Trump or any maga. They are much further right than that.
Wanting to undo progress made and empower old ideologies is the definition of the words politically conservative.
That’s Trump’s whole agenda.
biden funded a genocide for years
trump gets a cease fire day 1
who is the harm reduction candidate now?
everyone that voted blue for that reason may your shame and guilt burden you for life
Meanwhile moderates on both sides think all of you need to desperately touch some fuckin grass.
Seriously I am very worried about the mental health of like 97% of the people on here.
The important thing is that you found a way to feel superior to both sides.
I don’t feel superior to either side inherently. I’m just sitting here in the middle seeing how absolutely brain rotten both sides can be.
Neither side can apparently see how fucking insane they sound because they both think they are objectively correct about absolutely everything at all times.
I’m not sitting here going “you’re both wrong” I’m sitting here going “will both of you please shut up and listen to the other side once in a blue moon for the love of God”.
I’m not even an “enlightened centrist”. I actually lean left, but because I’m not “left enough” I get downvoted for daring to call some of these delusional fucks out on their bullshit.
I’ll have you know at least 20% of my shitposts have been posted while I was outside.
So there!
My favorite activity is making controversial shitposts and then taking an hour long walk
I’ll take a non-maga right wing user over a tankie any day. It’s not even close.
I’m lost. What is a tankie?
Authoritarian Communism or Socialism. They are generally in favor of a strong military and central state government that projects power and maintains social order, and ideally social progress through strict law and order methods people who look at Mao and Stalin as necessary or a net gain at least, hopefully they aren’t into Pol Pot’s methodology, as it was clear his primary objective was to constantly purge his own supporters while trying to starve and kill anyone that wasn’t a multi generational rice farmer of strictly Cambodian ethnicity or identity. But Pol Pot isn’t like totally out of pocket for what they’d like to see happen either. So yeah. Authoritarian Communism or Socialism, police state, rolling tanks over disodances. Hence Tankies.
Thank you!
Do you actually don’t know, or is this step one of a contrarian about to start their brilliant exposé?
Lets assume this is sincere and you don’t have access to a search engine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
edit: 2 years on Lemmy and you don’t know what a tankie is, lucky you
I’m asking since i was wondering what they meant by it. Have seen the word but never bothered to look it up, and instead of infering the meaning I asked.
Don’t use Wikipedia as a source if you want to come off as serious. Thats like, middle school level knowledge, at least in our schools. You still haven’t told me, and I guess that i’ll find several definitions, cause that’s usually how it goes.
Don’t use Wikipedia as a source if you want to come off as serious. Thats like, middle school level knowledge, at least in our schools.
I was spot on.
About being condescending? Yes, you are. You showed what level you’re on by sending a Wikipedia link.
You’re like one of those troglodytes that answer a question with a lmgtfy-link unsarcastically.
non-maga right wing
How many of those are left? Two, three?
I remember before 2016, I had respect for some right-wing folk online who, while far from agreement with me, I regarded as simply legitimately misguided (in a “Free markets because gubmint bad”) kind of way.
It was… eye-opening to see how many of them went mask-off in the Trump years, and how fast and fiercely they did it.
hmm yes i will take a polite racist over someone that seeks to empower and enrich the proletariat
how very liberal of you
scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds!
Tankies are out here calling for peoples’ deaths every day. I know this because I was born in the wrong country so tankies seethe just seeing the instance TLD. So many tankies think we should be executed for breaking free of the empire.
Why? It’s similar but worse, driven by irrational anxiety with less reason and more potential to do the world harm…
This screams that people with different opinions aren’t people with valid opinions and lead to further dialectic conversation, and I reject that premise.
Conservatives should be welcome. Everyone should be welcome.
I haven’t seen a person identify as a conservative on Lemmy without also a shitheel about civil rights.
Ok… well now you have. Everyone should be treated equally under the law. No one should be discriminated against.
Well… that’s not quite what I said. I said civil rights. Not equal treatment under the law. If the government passed a law banning Jewish people or that I can own a black man or that trans people can use their preferred bathroom, that law could be equally applied to everyone, but not effect everyone equally.
I disagree, Nazi’s have zero place anywhere in society outside of a history book.
Agree. Also Fascists and Theocrats.
What if they’re Nazis in Ukraine? Weren’t you agreeing with anti-tankie sentiment in other comments?
Nazis in Ukraine are still Nazis. Fortunately, there weren’t very many Nazis in Ukraine, and Russia just used that as a scapegoat, and only a fool would believe otherwise 😊
There’s enough that they name streets after Nazis, cover their uniforms in Nazi symbols, and appoint self-declared Nazis to positions of power.
And yet the Nazi party only represents 2% of citizens, so okie dokie buckaroo, keep drinking that koolaid…or is that just Putin’s piss? 🤔
They’re not Nazis. Calling them Nazis just makes it easier to do this stuff
They’re openly fascists. I don’t know why you’re trying to split hairs. They’re not hiding it.
Are “they” in the room with us right now?
I disagree, Nazi’s have zero place anywhere in society outside of a history book.
I never even said who was a Nazi, just that they don’t have a place in society.
way to miss the point…
Wow, it’s almost like you have trouble to make yourself understood. There are more than one that “misread” what you wrote, so perhaps some introspection is due.
wow, it’s almost like you’re obtusely misrepresenting your comprehension of what you read.
Not sure why anyone would want to make themselves appear dumber than they are but, hey I won’t kink-shame.
But they aren’t nazis. Just like you probably aren’t a naxalite, even though you might have a similar opinion on specific subjects.
Argue the point of a subject and stop swerving off to name calling.
who are “they”?
Could ask you the same. You seem to imply most of all people that voted for Trump, or that agree with republicans on an issue they deem important. Hate to brake it to you, but there aren’t that many genuine nazis.
that’s not under question here. I said Nazi’s don’t have a place in society.
not who.
not what.
just Nazis.
why are you defending Nazis so much?
You imply that ordinary people are nazis.
improve your reading and comprehension because I am certain I did not.
I’ve said this before, and been(more than) down voted for it, but I want more conservatives, more tankies, more anything I don’t outright agree with. People will say how bad person in their echo chamber is in their echo chamber.
The early internet was so scarce it was important to find like minded people. Today the internet is so widespread it should be the opposite. It takes 5 minutes to find a entire platform filled with people who all think like you. That’s how we got flat earth conventions.
I’m confident in my beliefs and opinions, which is why I want them challenged. I want to think critically, I want difficult rhetoric. I want my world view to be challenged. I want to be uncomfortable.
That’s a hard pitch to a platform known to be unflinchingly rigid about maintaining their wind tunnels.
This only works when they engage in good faith. So no, you don’t want more tankies and conservatives, because most of them are incapable of that. Their worldview requires that they do not.
Agree, but I think there are lots of people who are a bit more on the fence, or playing around with ideas. If someone says something stupid out of ignorance or inexperience, and they get blasted for it, they probably aren’t gonna learn much from it, and they might go hang out with the people who responded well to it…
Obviously if you try and it turns out they understand what they are saying, and are doing it intentionally, they can get fucked. Problem is it’s hard to tell sometimes, and not many people have the capacity to tolerate that behaviour enough to find out.
Problem is, they don’t argue in good faith, no matter what evidence or arguments you bring to the table no matter how long or short they’re right and you’ve just been subjected to brainwashing/propaganda.
Nor is it a debatable political position to be spread Nazi-ism or bigotry (which is what most right-wingers do)
Such a bummer the 80s futuristic look ever caught on past then, car dashes that made you feel like you are on the enterprise were awesome.
Uhh, I think you posted to the wrong thread lmao
That doesn’t make it less true, does it?
Lol no, no it does not
Hyundai is doing some relevant things.
I injected ivermetcin infused raw milk into my veins so that I can get the REAL news quicker.
nice. You saw that new Joe Rogan episode too?
Broadcast into my retinas via neuralink.
It may have triggered my nose to bleed incessantly but I KNOW this is because I didn’t take my ONNIT & ALPHA BRAIN
That’s onnit o - n - n - I- t
I blocked ML, then blocked Trump and Elon as keywords.
I don’t see this behaviour much anymore.
Someone took the time to make this comic. Don’t be that person. You’re better than that and should enjoy much more enriching things than exhausting your energy into the black hole that goes no where, but you’ve been socially led to think is somehow important and noticed.
Step 1. Start blocking the tribe’s.camp sites.
That’s really just sticking your head in the sand, in a way “pulling up the ladder behind you” in regards to new users. I’m not saying Lemmy needs to grow at an explosive rate, but we should still have healthy growth. And the Tankie Triad is against and sometimes straight up hostile to new users who aren’t tankies
Stethoscope theory.
Tankies are just right wingers with zaney lines they drew themselves.
Trump is more left wing than your most left wing tankie.
I’ve seen it before, but I’m not completely convinced tbh, Tankies are authoritarian communists because they believe it to be the path forward and get rid of capitalism with the authoritarian part only being wielded against businesses/owners
Right-wing authoritarianism is all about control because racism, a 6000 year old fiction book and the rich
There it is. I was looking for the comment that contradicts the meme.
And they’re always bitching about batshit things on conservative.
HOW DARE BIDEN GIVE MONEY LAUNDERER ZELENKSY MORE MONEY. HE IS SURROUNDED BY IT IN HIS CASTLE.
Like bruh shut the fuck up.
Lol did you see the one where they’re complaining about Lemmy “censorship” because their shit takes get downvoted to hell lmao
Yeah, and the sad (for them) truth is this is their free market action they love. I see your shitty opinion, I downvote it. Turns out they can’t handle that when they can’t obfuscate their unpopularity
You must like what I say or it is cEnCoRsHiP!!
Ha ha yeah, lyckily they are kind of few.
