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    Dumb son of a bitch doesn’t even understand that a vaccine is “giving someone the disease” without killing them. God damn are we devolving that fast?

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    Conspiracy theorists for the last few decades: “The government is trying to murder us!”

    The actual government in 2025: “Yes, we would like it if a grand majority of you were to die”

    Conspiracy theorists: crickets

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      Conspiracy theorists: crickets

      Agreed, FACTUAL EVIDENCE of a conspiracy theory is collected by reputable Johns Hopkins University and George Washington University and crickets. People flock to conspiracies with no evidence, but once one appears with authentic validation… nothing.

       

      Troll accounts that had attempted to influence the US election had also been tweeting about vaccines, a study says. Many posted both pro- and anti-vaccination messages to create “false equivalency”, the study found. It examined thousands of tweets sent between 2014 and 2017. Vaccination was being used by trolls and sophisticated bots as a “wedge issue”, said Mark Dredze from Johns Hopkins University. “A significant portion of the online discourse about vaccines may be generated by malicious actors with a range of hidden agendas,” said David Broniatowski from George Washington University. The researchers reviewed more than 250 tweets about vaccination from accounts linked to the St Petersburg-based Internet Research Agency (IRA). In February the agency was named in a US indictment over alleged election meddling.

      source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45294192

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        It’s because people love feeling like they’re privvy to a secret. The second it’s validated and becomes public knowledge, it’s no longer “privileged” knowledge and no longer makes them feel special for “knowing” a “secret truth”

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          The second it’s validated and becomes public knowledge, it’s no longer “privileged” knowledge and no longer makes them feel special for “knowing” a “secret truth”

          Ahh, the (2 thousand year old) Bible verse Romans 11:33 theory of James Joyce’s work ;)

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        Yes, covid was very potent tool enrolling those people to disinformation channels and groups.

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      Cause now it’s no longer a conspiracy, they’re just coming right out and saying a bunch of people dying is fine.

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    Remember the conspiracy theorists who though “the government” was using Covid-19 to cull the population? I wonder what they’re up to right now.

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      Probably ranting about how the shadow government is out to get Trump and Elon after they started saving America

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      These were the same ding-a-lings that couldn’t seem to make up their mind whether it was “just like the flu” (people were only dying “with” Covid, not from it) and any concern about it was just drummed up by “the media” and Fauci to ruin little d’s chances of re-election and kill all of our freedoms to go vaxless and maskless to super-spreader events, OR an intentional thing from Fauci/Soros/Gates working with the Chinese to kill everyone.

      I mean, even in their own bullshit fictional universe, things don’t fit together. I have no idea how so many of these people manage to conduct the rest of their lives, but I cannot imagine living in those heads of theirs.

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    What a stupid motherfucker. Anyone who voted for these venal clowns ought to be ashamed of themselves.

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      Most of them have no moral compass and/or have zero awareness of just how fucking stupid all of them look.

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    I’m still optimistic the lifers at HHS who stood firm and didn’t resign are just slowly teaching Lil Bobby what a vaccine is:

    While RFK Jr. recently shifted his stance to concede that vaccinations are actually pretty useful, he has still stopped short of urging skeptics to go and get it. And in an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity that aired Tuesday night, he appeared to still favor natural immunity through exposure to the virus.

    "It used to be, when I were a kid, that everybody got measles. And the measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection,” he said, then taking a swipe at the vaccine. “The vaccine doesn’t do that. The vaccine is effective for some people for life, but for many people it wanes.”

    Like, he is damn close to understanding a measles vaccine is measles, just a hindered version that won’t be able to reproduce and cause harm. And real close to understanding the need for booster shots.

    He’s still not there, and it seems to be taking weeks for what can be covered in depth in 15 minutes.

    But eventually I hope they’ll win him over.

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      This is how I feel RFK jr has always operated. He does/proposes/thinks progressive things right up until it really goes off the rails. Like, he argued there are medical biases against Black Americans (very much true and well researched), but then segued into the COVID-19 vaccines being medical experiments on minorities and tried to discourage vaccination that way. He usually starts with a good cause but inevitably drags it into conspiracy territory. Also someone is sanewashing his Wikipedia article because there’s a lot of his bullshit missing from a few months ago.

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        That is not true.

        It’s not all sunshine and rainbows anywhere in the fed right now, but there’s always ways to fight and this is the biggest

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      it suppreses the immune system, apparently the virus can infect dendritic cells, which is the part where it activates T cells, which attacks cells infected with viruses.

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      It’s also capable of sterilizing victims, which would lead to a population decline if everybody got it.

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        actually infertility, many of the viruses can do that, chickenpox, mumps, rubella all can cause orchitis in men, adult infections are much more dangerous.

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    As a bonus for contracting measles, you’ll get all your previous vaccines and earned immunities deleted by the measles virus attacking your immune cells dedicated to remembering how to effectively fight past pathogens.

    So you can think of measles as THE antivaccine. No wonder the antivaxxers love it so much!

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    Not supporting this dude, but I watched the whole video and he never once said it would be better if everyone got measles. Maybe I missed it; if so, please correct me. He mentioned a waning effect with the vaccine vs full-blown infection, which I highly doubt is accurate (I’ll research it later), but that’s a massive stretch to get to the headline. He even recommended vaccines and said they will be available for free to anyone that needs them. I’ve gotten a little lazy in fact checking left leaning stuff because I always felt it was a little more trustworthy. I’m just starting to wonder how much I’ve been blindly accepting because it conforms to my biases.

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      Thanks for watching it and writing this. Good to know it’s not as stupid as it’s made out to be.

      I’ve actually got fed up with left-leaning outrage news because any time I check it it’s twisted out of shape or plain wrong. I’m sure there’s plenty the same in right-leaning-outrage-news, I just don’t see it in the first place!

      I wish people who want a world of truth and science wouldn’t lie to get support.

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        The written article also doesn’t say it would be better if everyone got measles. I listened to the interview long enough to see the article is quoting him accurately and fairly. At least for that.

        Then he spent probably too much time talking about vitamin A, and I didn’t listen to the rest

        It’s really just a lying outrage headline - from the written article

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        as opposed to right wing news? which just makes things entirely up, thats where interview came from fox, the site was just reposted on that site.

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    The dems really need to appoint a shadow cabinet and hold press conferences with fact checks and useful advice about how to get vaccinated.

    I’m glad that I am science literate and live close to the canadian border.