• Snowclone@lemmy.world
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    yeah, anti public transit has several motivations, the most American is racism. if we have robust public transit, they can’t be “whites only” and you can’t force the not-whites to sit in the back. so right there. Then you have white land owning hegemony. Why do the busses only go downtown and not to the shopping center half way to the suburbs? because they don’t want the filthy poors mucking up their white fort, if you let busses go up to the suburbs then THEY can get there and do all the things they get blamed for!! Lastly, profit motive. mass transit means people can choose to have a car or not. the powers that be are making a lot of money off cars and mass transit will upset the apple cart.

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      You know, I’ve been thinking about this a lot. And your comment reminds me of it. The aesthetics of evil. Racist segregation is an obvious evil. So if you tell black people to stand at the back of the bus because they’re not allowed to mix with the whites, that’s rather obvious and a horrific picture to have. But, if you handicap them, make sure they can only live in the cheapest communities and then limit the mobility of them. Same result. But because you didn’t see it, and the enforced segregation is rather subtle… Well, looks better, doesn’t it? So people are more likely to accept it. And if you say things like “The city has marked this black community unfit for investment.” then it sounds already like a conspiracy theory. Making you the weirdo for speaking out. Horrid, but an elegant and efficient system for censorship, isn’t it?

      And to be absolutely clear: I reject racial segregation and censorship, obviously.

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    This is because public transportation is socialism and we can’t have tax dollars going to that pretext for communism. Capitalism is far superior which is why we are instead spending over $150 billion on deporting immigrants, which will help promote a free and open capitalist market.

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    Not just trains but all transportation services and systems is severely lacking in this country. Along with crumbling infrastructure and terrible build quality of cars and trucks and you got a recipe for disaster. But no one will care cuz Merica!

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    America: if ain’t broke don’t fix it Every other country: yah it’s time, what are our new requirements?

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      Then there’s “if it ain’t broke… how can we break it to extract a few extra bucks from it?”

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    Oh trains! Now do pollution, or infrastructure, or empty cities…

    A year ago I would have said Concentration Camps, but we both have those now.

    You should try to find better criticism.

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      Congratulations, you figured out that China is a large country! It would be ridiculous to think that a country with 1.4 billion people would have less people dieing in traffic than a country with a smaller population.

      If you just go by absolute numbers, a large country will have more of absolutely everything than a small country.

      Now go back to your link and sort by “Je 100.000 Einwohner” and see how that changes the list.

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        But you understand that “je Einwohner” means shit with that density of cars? cant have a car crash when you ride a donkey. per car would make much more sense but that’s the least the regime would care about which is why say 50k ppl died. i guess from how much their culture sucks it is 500k per year. :-)

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          If only that metric was included in the link above. Well, luckily it is. And guess what: When sorting by “je 100 000 motorisierte Fahrzeuge” (“per 100 000 motorized vehicles”), China ranks even much better.

          Sorting by per inhabitants puts China as the 68th worst country, so 67 countries are worse. Sorting by per motorized vehicels puts China as 115th worst, so 114 countries are worse.

          When looking at “per motorized vehicles” China is on par with Lettland.

          If only there was a way to follow the link and look at actual numbers before spouting made-up misinformation.

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            this misinformation you are talking about it what i am talking about! yeah. finally. ofcourse the numbers are MUCH higher. coercion or killing of others is legit for motorists and the governments that need the industry.

            i am sure china is always and will always be among the worst of the worst. one of the oldest countries and still tourture,regime government and imbecile citizens.

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                LOL.

                If it was only about competence, I think throwing dice might yield better results than what many politicians are doing.

                that you and nUmbErS? that is called being disconnected with the world. maybe 4chan convinced you to love pervy chinese regime but “AFK” is where those cars actually drive. should check it out some time.

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                  You are what appens if someone is too dumb to understand anything but extremes. Being able to understand nuance requires at least the mental level of a 10yo.

                  It is an quite extraordinary feat to be so dumb that you think a country has to be either terrible at everything or great at everything and anyone who says a country is not terrible at everything must be totally in love with everything that happens in that country.

                  Literally kindergarden level of argumentation.

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    Weird to compare a brutal dictatorship which violates human rights on the regular vs a democracy which violates human rights a little less.

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        I am as American as Pancetta. It is just the glorification of China that is rubbing me the wrong way.

        Their buildings are collapsing. Yes, it is built fast, cheap and looks nice. And then it fails.

        And the Chinese peope themselves. They suffer.

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          the glorification of China

          The Chinese government has definitely run ahead of the pack on domestic investment. But you could play the same game with Spain or Japan or Turkiye. The numbers simply would not have been as impressive.

          Their buildings are collapsing.

          This is a meme from 2008. You won’t find any more crumbling buildings in China than you’d find in the UK or Korea.

          And the Chinese peope themselves. They suffer.

          They’ll never know the joys of bumper to bumper traffic

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            Explain the sinking just finished metro. The ghost towns. The buildings collapsing. The bridges decaying because of concrete rot. There are so many current projects going bad because of the use of bad materials and dodgy practices. Skipping a geo research before building etc.

            The Chinese are surpressed by the CCP. More than 90% of the drinking water is not fit for consumption. Aside from the AI cleaned up videos and pictures, there isn’t much of a clear sky with the smog.

            And where are the birds?

            … Also have you seen China. They too have traffic jams.

            No country is a wonderland. And if someone is really really really trying to convince me they are that magnificent, and better than everyone else. I. Do. Not. Trust. Them.

            Actions say more than words. And the actions have spoken.

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    Right now, the Chinese government has effective eminent domain powers which allows them to acquire property for which to build public infrastructure, both expressways and high-speed railways. That the Chinese people have no questions about the positives regarding HSTs, especially crunchtime during holidays where railway stations would be jampacked. That they’re rolling their HSTs to show their technological prowess.

    Why the US HST programs and passenger rail transport in general are at glacial pace is partly because of the usual car lobby, because of NIMBYs, because of cheap air transport, and some people now on online gambling instead of touching grass and tossing dice in Vegas.

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    This isn’t even about government styles. This is just investing in infrastructure vs not doing that.