If a topic keeps coming up no matter how much you try to censor it, consider that it’s not going away. Some changes are long overdue.
Veganism isn’t political. It’s just stupid.
Veganism is like religion. As long as you keep it to yourself I couldn’t care less. But if you make it your personality or proselytize about it then I’ll probably think it’s fun to make fun of you for it.
But we’re all evil because eating animals is abuse and that’s all there is to it, and they can’t abide our evil. /s
Thing is, most people WOULD CARE if I treat a dog, cat, or any other cute animal the same way as dairy/meat industry does. Why doesn’t the “as long as you keep it to yourself” argument count in this case (might not be for you but for most people)?
It’s about philosophy/ethics and not religion.
Q: How do you know someone is vegan?
A: Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.
How do you know an animal abuser is in the room? Don’t worry, they either won’t shut up about bacon, or they’ll make the same bland anti-vegan jokes that were old 20+ years ago.
You’re fighting the good fight, don’t worry about the pushback. If you have a choice, regular meat-eating in Western society is one of the most selfish, deluded things a person can do and future generations (if we even make it that far) will look back on those people, myself included, the same way we look at antivaxxers.
I see this confusion elsewhere. Political can mean both “ripe for ideological arguments that drown out anything else” and “relating to [US] government and political parties”
Its a venn diagram often. But I can see why some communities don’t want the same predictable “vegans are assholes”/“well meat eaters hate the planet” rehashing all the time.
Its so loud and weird I often think it’s astro turfed. I haven’t met an annoying vegan in decades. And most omnivores I know want to eat less meat. It’s a rancorous debate that seems to only exist online.
What’s with the vegan hate? Leave that shit at Reddit.
So, are we hoping this gets deleted as well to keep the tradition alive, or is this hopefully going to change moderation? I’m confused on how to feel about this.
I’m just going to keep posting anti animal abuse content and eventually enough people are going to do the same until it becomes too hard to ignore.
No. You’re delusional to think that “eventually” is ever going to become reality. Not tomorrow, not in your whole lifetime.
You’re not hard to ignore–actually, you’re pretty easy to ignore at proven by both groups of moderators.
It’s like people who say desktop Linux is currently good enough to be mainstream for everyone, and it will any day now, please? And that it’s everyone else’s fault that it hasn’t, they’re just lazy and afraid or something.
I think you’re forgetting that we can just block you and never see any of your posts again.
Did you post a meme about cow farts contributing to climate change or something?
You do realize these are two separate groups of mods for each sub right?
There is no monolithic “Lemmy Mods” or even “Lemmy Admins”.
Something y’all need to realise is that commenting “Abusing animals is literally H*tler and you should be publicly executed for eating a chickenburger” is not going to turn someone vegan. Go look for smarter ways, god damn it.
Vegans (well, this kind) would have to be smart to do that. But they’re not, they’re cultists and will accept literally any argument or statement that supports their cause, no matter how stupid. Fundamentalist Christians and militant atheists are like that too.
I’ve never understood why vegans, the ones the vast majority agree are doing something at least good (even if you don’t understand it’s a moral obligation), are the ones that have to cater to the genocidal masses.
Stop and think for a second, imagine you live in a wild, wild world where the vegan position is actually correct. Imagine that you’re a vegan, and those around you are actually supporting an unjustified animal holocaust. Then think about how your critique of vegans comes off. It’s the genocidal maniacs complaining about how they’re treated unfairly on the internet because sometimes someone attacks their delicate sensibilities.
It’s not my responsibility to engage with you in such a way that makes you a better person. Your own failings are your own, and my failings are my own. My failings are I sometimes make someone on the internet a bit sad, and yours are participating in a market demanding tens of billions of animal deaths every year, a quantitative level of suffering we’ve never seen before.
Just stop and think for a second. We’re talking about posting in meme communities. Meme communities are for lighthearted jokes, not serious discussions and berating people.
Dark humor is a real thing, and it’s fine and even cathartic for a lot of people. Joking about fascists, genocide-enablers, etc. is something some people find in poor taste, while others find it cathartic. Neither is wrong.
Isnt that what literally happens everywhere all the time in different context? ‘arabs beat their wives they are evil’, ‘indigenous people take halucinogenic drugs they are evil’, ‘russians kill and rape civilians they are evil’. Usually it is the strong that force their beliefs on the minorities, fortunately you cant force people to eat meat by law.
When I die, feed my body to the animals as payback
You hate them that much, huh?
Aren’t there different mods for each community? What was the meme that was deleted?
If a topic keeps coming up no matter how much you try to censor it, consider that it’s not going away. Some changes are long overdue.
With a topic so white hot that it can’t be ignored you should consider starting @VeganMemes
I don’t like the fact that vegans are always pushed into forming echochambers. Everybody else needs to take a hard look and recognize that maybe not abusing animals isn’t so radical after all.
Lmao Vegans can’t even stand being in a community with other Vegans.
Oh damn lol
