“Oh yeah? You don’t like genocide? Well you don’t get your cap and gown ceremony. So there.”
That’ll show 'em.
I work for a university and am glad that it’s public because this nonsense doesn’t happen. We’re beholden to the public rather than to donors.
The moment they canceled the Valedictorian speech, I would have simply failed to show up to the commencement. And I would have done my best to surprise USC of it. And I’d have organized or at least hoped other people would do the same thing.
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Definitely shitty of them, but my point is that I doubt anyone at USC protesting this genocide is all that concerned with not getting a graduation ceremony right now.
Most people there have rich daddies. They are there because daddy wants them to have a respectable degree if you catch my drift.
ruin someone’s moment
And how many lives were ruined in last 80 years because of USA’s foreign policies?
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Man… I support the Gaza protests. But this is a stupid take. I hope instead of going to work or celebrating your birthday, or getting married, or doing anything remotely joyful, you protest Gaza. If you’re not giving up life’s big moments in solidarity with Gaza, you’re not honoring their ruined lives.
Edit: I hope the people downvoting are out protesting right now. Don’t be hypocrites. Rather than downvoting on Lemmy, you should be canceling all other activities in your life and try to get arrested for Gaza.
Yeah dont blame the people actually cancelling the ceremony and supporting genocide, blame the people protesting for having morals.
big “look what you made me do” energy.
The graduation ceremony isn’t your reward for your work. At least, it shouldn’t be. Your reward for graduating is the opportunities that you’ve opened for yourself for the next chapter of your life. I didn’t go to mine and I haven’t regretted it for a second. The knowledge didn’t leave my brain, at least not as a result of missing graduation.
Why is everyone afraid of college students protesting? I mean this police state response goes back to before Kent State and Tianemen square no doubt.
Well if it’s frightening- keep it up! There must be some form of agency there
Old people have a suicide death grip on this country and they would rather die and be buried under the rubble of their own hubris than let the people that have an actual stake in the future change anything.
Historically, it seems like they can inspire a whole nation especially if demonstrators get hurt or get killed by the police or military
Eventually every mishandled conflict becomes about the response to the conflict instead of the issue that started it. I still remember the end of OWS when no one was talking about the bailouts anymore instead talking about the difference between camping and protesting I also remember the daily reminders that some anti-war protestor in 2003 threw acid at a cop.
People have the right to make their voice heard. Governments should understand that, establish areas where they can make it heard, and do nothing to make it turn violent. Likewise protestors should make sure that they focus on the issue they care about an expel ones that start shit.
Disruption is an essential part of protest, otherwise it can just be entirely ignored. It’s meant to force results. If there’s enough support for it, it grows as the government cracks down on it (like BLM did in 2020) and becomes a conflict of attrition. If there isn’t, then the protesters get punished and the people celebrate it (like the truckers protesting covid restrictions in Canada).
If your protest inconveniences nobody, it’ll also result in no change.
Why is everyone afraid of college students protesting?
Its not fear, its a show of force. This is an opportunity to unleash pent up rage and inflict callous brutality on a group of people that mass media have flogged and hated on for decades. College students are poor, weak, and exceptionally vulnerable. Teachers are poor and overworked and increasingly precarious in their employment. College campuses are hotbeds of Marxism according to your average Boomer or news hour talking head.
So this is where municipal and state officials can drop the hammer unimpeded. This is where they can really indulge in their fascist impulses. This is where they know nobody will try and stop them.
I mean this police state response goes back to before Kent State and Tianemen square no doubt.
If Tienanmen Square happened in DC today, the guy standing in front of the tank would be labeled at Tankie by the NYT Op-Ed section.
They aren’t.
They are afraid of being labeled anti-semitic. That is what is driving this. Allowing the protests to exist gets the uni/president labeled anti-semitic, and that is unacceptable for the universities. The universities are then asking the police to break them up by force, because violent against students is more acceptable than being labeled anti-Semitic.
I remember them going after us for protesting the Iraq war.
I feel like this is having a bit of a Streisand effect.
Protests are important, but I also encourage and hope that young people who care about the world become lawyers and politicians
Protests like these are often what politicians’ lives are built on. These students will be seen on the right side of history, and to have the conviction to be jailed for it? That would get my vote.
do you know lawyers and politicians? I’ve known a lot in my professional career.
They do not care about anyone but themselves.
If student unions can organize with worker unions for protests/strikes that seems like a possible way we’ll get enough momentum going to think about a general strike for some long overdue reforms
If student unions can organize with worker unions
Christ, can you even imagine what the police would do in the middle of a strike wave?
Battle of Blair Mountain eat your fucking heart out.
Why don’t we all go join them? (Don’t want to hear your excuses I’m not accusing anyone)
Maybe we can start something.
Would love a list of protests happening in campuses near me. Not sure how to find that info.
Because fuck this nearly century-old ethno-religious blood feud.
If peace-loving people on both sides got together and decided to institute a single government that upholds the rights of all, this would end tomorrow. But they don’t. Because the reality is both sides would prefer to wallow in their anger and hate than actually solve the problem.
I’m not gonna waste my time protesting for Israelis to unilaterally impose their way on Palestinians, and I’m not gonna protest for Palestinians to unilaterally impose their way on Israelis. And no one is asking me to protest anything else. So there’s no solution, it’s all just a big waste of everyone’s time.
Like I said, I’m not asking for your reasons why you don’t want to. That’s on you. The rest of us should go and turn this protest into a movement. Why stop at Isreal? We have plenty of grievances. Let’s go.
Agree with you. Big waste of time.
I know several Jewish people who told me that they’re going to vote for Trump and the Republicans because they’re the only ones supporting them.
I know several who said they wont
First they came for the trade unionists.
https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/first-they-came-by-pastor-martin-niemoller/
You skipped a couple.
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What a boomer question…
They want the US to stop supplying weapons to a genocidal state and actually put pressure on Israel to stop with the wanton destruction. The US is propping up it’s ally with millions of $ in bombs, missiles, and other such weapons in what are ultimately being used to murder men, women, and children that have nothing to do with this war besides live in Gaza. The IDF is murdering, raping, executing, humiliating, mauling, torturing, and harming men, women, and children. Fuck them. The US should not be supporting this sort of treatment of civilians. Did that answer your pedantic, little “gotcha” question gramps?
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Damn, if only there were more than just the two options. I mean, we stop funding genocide and then Hamas immediately wins, that’s the only possible way it could go, right?
In 6-months, Israel has killed more than 34,000 Palestinians, and wounded more than 78,000.
70% of those casualties are women and children.
Israel has destroyed more than 221,000 housing units, leaving almost half the population homeless.
Israel has decimated their civilian infrastructure, electricity, water, and sewage.
Israel has destroyed 26 hospitals, killed more than 400 healthcare workers.
Israel has destroyed every single University in Gaza, 56 different schools, and badly damaged hundreds more, leaving over half a million students without access to education.
Israel has violated international law. It has blocked foreign aid to help these people, leaving them starving, sick, destitute, and dying…
…and yet, it’s apparent that you believe that it’s okay for the IDF to do this. The fact that you even have the gall to comment on this either means that you’re so belligerently ignorant of the situation that you legitimately believe that the IDF is in the “right” here - in which case, you’re a reactionist, a weaponized pawn that merely gets angry at what they are told to be angry at (i.e. you are no better than a herded sheep)…or…this means that you legitimately think this is acceptable behaviors, and you exemplify the sickness in humanity that exists today. That wanton death and destruction is okay to you is frankly revolting, and the world will be a better place when you and people like you are gone from it.
either means that your so belligerently ignorant of the situation
You’re*
The rest of your comment was spot on
So let Hamas, a terrorist organization, run rampant on Israel right?
Instead we’re letting Israel run rampant on civilians and allowing them to slaughter thousands upon thousands and throw them in mass graves.
Fukkin boomers…
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Israel could exterminate every single living thing in that area in a matter of hours if they wanted to.
Oh wow they should be commended for… not being even more awful than they already are.
What a fucking braindead argument.
But they don’t because they actually value life, unlike the baby killing, house people snatching low life animals that are Hamas.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what the fuck are you even on about? Bruh, you literally describe to a T what Israel is doing and then blame Hamas. Or did I miss the 75 years of Hamas bulldozing houses for settlers?
Go cheer on Israel throwing more bodies in a mass grave and lying about the shit they find to gullible rubes.
You all need to stop believing
HamasIsraeli funded news sites and look at how they actually, and cowardly, fightIsraelthe Palestinian people.“Hamas funded news sites” lol stop, you’re (figuratively) killing me like Israel (literally) murders people in refuge camps and humanitarian corridors.
Edit: I just really have to come back and point out how stupid this comment is
because they actually value life
Because if they actually cared about human life they’d open up aid and not withhold food and water as collective punishments against the uprising caused by decades of Israel not giving a shit about Palestinian lives.
Look up who funded Hamas to counter the moderate Palestinians.
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lol you really feel irrelevant
We can start with putting a stop to supplying Israel.
