Same with Russia atm in Ukraine. Geopolitics as usual.
Whataboutism? Sure, fuck the illegal invasion, but why the need for whataboutism?
Like, I can drink out of this thimble deep
I think the only country that’s legit happened to was Iraq,
Usually it’s more about how traumatized the POWs captured by your country’s soldiers were. Unbroken being the major cinematic example, and all the stories about Senator McCain refusing early release and being tortured for it and the guy who blinked reports of torture out in morse code while reading a hostage statement in Vietnam being the more “stuff of legends” examples.
American Sniper is the only one I’ve seen where it’s about how some soldier who didn’t experience anything above the typical background humm of war felt about the whole thing.
Probably because being a US military troop is the least dangerous it’s ever been, so the major condition most troops will face isn’t death or permanent injury, but instead PTSD from having faced combat or Survivor’s guilt from having been suddenly shifted off the rare doomed mission or patrol that still claims casualties at the last second.
Most enlisted troops are just career workers in camo with a REALLY rigorous on the job fitness program. There’s a reason the US is everyone’s intel and logistics repository, and it’s because for every dollar spent on actually fighting, ten grt spent on building up so much intelligence that the deck is as stacked as it can be before the cards even come out of the box to be dealt.
As others have said there’s a bunch more, but the one that really grinds my gears is The Covenant
We really spent 20 years telling these terps they and their families would be safe, then just fucking left and made a MOVIE about that shitty bullshit underhanded move?
Put every single goddamn joint chief in front of congress and ask why this is a fictional tale
Honestly what gets me about evac failures and abandonments is the Berlin Airlift.
We had the logistics to mount a months long rescue operation that could get everyone fleeing out decades before these rushed withdrawals.
Everyone in Saigon and Kabul could have been gotten out, fuck we could have mounted a rolling evac bringing collaborators behind lines and transporting them in a trickle so that the last folks out are in a relatively empty air schedule. Expanding and contracting sphere, keep everyone who’s in it willingly behind the line so long as they willingly continue to move with it.
We go in get the resource then leave. Werner van Braun got a first class ticket to the US
Soldiers in the sandbox were playing COD on Xboxes in the hooch before going out to a real life version where people lived in bombed out huts, then promising if you work with us you’ll get a better life in America
The US military has many faults but logistics is not one. Every single terp and their cousin could be living in Milwaukee right now…but we fucking chose not to.
Pushing functional birds off a carrier deck to make room for people is the definition of Churchill’s quote. Americans will do the right thing after exhausting every other option.
This presupposes that every single person working to make change in their home is willing to just up and leave at a moments notice (or years in advance, which kind of undermines the entire motive to want to effect change, again in their home)
ten grt
Is this “ten are”, and a really bad typo? Or is grt some form of currency abbriviation I don’t get?
Ten get
I think the only country that’s legit happened to was Iraq,
M*A*S*H (Korea)
Jarhead (Iraq, but the first time)
Lone Survivor (Afghanistan)
The Men Who Stare at Goats (Guantanamo Bay Torture Facility in Cuba)
Letters from Iwo Jima (Pacific Theater - WW2)
Saving Private Ryan (European Theater - WW2)
Heartbreak Ridge (Grenada)
The Good Shepherd (Bay of Pigs Invasion, Cuba)
Full Metal Jacket (Vietnam)
Rambo (Vietnam)
Apocalypse Now (Vietnam)
We Were Soldiers (Vietnam)
Good Morning, Vietnam (Vietnam)
Just to pick one, Jarhead is not repeat not a war film. It’s about the Suck and sometimes you train for training sake
I don’t think you’ve seen some of these movies if you think it has anything to do with how sad it made them.
MASH is about saving war casualties and they make light of it all the while
Saving Priyate Ryan is a WW2 movie that happens whether or not Matt Damon is involved
Jarhead is an accurate portrayal of the Suck
Not sure what point OP is trying to make here
america, home of the crybully industrial complex
Tbf a lot of movies in America are subsidized by the army. If a movie plays in America and has army vehicles in then, check for them in the credits
Same with games like CoD. Fucking Activision has former CIA execs working for them. And how they use real events in the games and spin them around to make America look like the good guy.
Good guy might be generous.
CoD makes the US and her allies look like Hodor at the door. A big dumb idiot holding back the swarm.
You better play dead homie, we make a lot of sequels
So should we not make films that show how fucked up specific wars are?
I think it’s probably pretty rare that the military leaders who executed the war operations also make the movies about them…
Who is “we” and what are “our” goals? Those definitions will answer your question quickly enough.
All movies that glorify military violence should be treated cautiously even if the overall message is anti-war. Take Apocalypse Now. What will some people remember? The helicopters, Wagner, napalm in the morning. That’s not saying there’s no value in such movies, though.
We: filmmakers
Their goals: shine a light on how fucked war is. I cannot actually remember watching a war movie that didn’t make me deeply saddened by the brutality. Apocalypse now is a perfect example.
Originally a Frankie Boyle joke?
As an American I don’t think America would want to bomb my country to oblivion
Wait til you find oil there 😋
* stares at California and Texas *
…nah.
That’s exactly what they want you to think! Muahhahah
Seriously though… It’s not REALLY the US that’s doing these things… It’s the global oligarchy… They just use American soldiers because we were the only ones left with any after WW2 and it stuck. The oligarchy has no allegiance to any country or people and would absolutely bomb the shit out of America if it profited them.
Uhhhh… you DO realize Republicans have been screeching about a new civil war for years, right?
There is a HUGE portion of this country that would ABSOLUTELY bomb their neighbors if they could get away with it. A civil war might not destroy everything, but that’s only happening to the Palestinians. The US is too big to repeat that travesty.
That’s what handguns and assault rifles are for!
[Citation needed]
that’s because they don’t need to; you already have the congress and the supreme court for that.
Oh my god there’s more than one person in America??? And they can have different thoughts and opinions? What the fuck?
The film Civil War is basically America capitalising on its own imminent self-destruction.
That’s one of the things I like about the movie Three Kings. They make no excuse about who invaded who and who was ripping off who.
