It’s probably not selfishness, experts say. Even young adults who want children see an increasing number of obstacles.

For years, some conservatives have framed the declining fertility rate of the United States as an example of eroding family values, a moral catastrophe in slow motion.

JD Vance, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, recently came under fire for saying in 2021 that the nation was run by “childless cat ladies” who “hate normal Americans for choosing family over these ridiculous D.C. and New York status games.”

Last year, Ashley St. Clair, a Fox News commentator, described childless Americans this way: “They just want to pursue pleasure and drinking all night and going to Beyoncé concerts. It’s this pursuit of self-pleasure in replace of fulfillment and having a family.”

Researchers who study trends in reproductive health see a more nuanced picture. The decision to forgo having children is most likely not a sign that Americans are becoming more hedonistic, they say. For one thing, fertility rates are declining throughout the developed world.

Rather, it indicates that larger societal factors — such as rising child care costs, increasingly expensive housing and slipping optimism about the future — have made it feel more untenable to raise children in the United States.

Non-paywall link

  • Dojan@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    78
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    10 months ago

    It’s probably not selfishness, experts say. Even young adults who want children see an increasing number of obstacles.

    Well, of course it’s not selfishness. Having children is a purely selfish act, because who else are you reproducing for? You can’t do something for someone that doesn’t exist, and bringing existence to someone who hasn’t asked for it, knowing what the world looks like, doesn’t strike me as a kindness. So who else is benefiting? The capitalist machine?

  • YaksDC@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    46
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    What about “I just don’t want one.” is that not a legitimate line of thought? That was what I based my decision on. I have never understood why the default state was marriage and then have a family. I can tell you that me and my childless wife are family.

    • blattrules@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      10 months ago

      Agreed, I don’t know why people don’t understand that “I don’t want one” is a completely legitimate reason to not have one by itself. Add to that any level of depth you’d like to choose from financial, climate or political reasons to there just being too many people in the world already and it further legitimizes it, but “I just don’t want one” is and should be completely valid on its own.

    • bostonbananarama@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      The main question seems to be why is the birth rate declining. Presumably people not wanting kids have existed during all times. But even if we assume that there are more people per capita who don’t want kids, the question persists, why is that the case, and how much of the decline is attributable to it.

      • ampersandrew@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        10 months ago

        When women were almost always home makers, children were how they’d find fulfillment. Now they can have fulfillment from working careers. At least, this is one of the main reasons I’ve heard about long standing trends in birth rate decline. They predict that the human population on earth will peak between 11 and 12 billion and kind of just stay there.

  • ccunning@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    39
    ·
    edit-2
    10 months ago

    I bet if the billionaires shared just a bit more we could afford to have more kids and they wouldn’t be looking at their labor force drying up…

  • Fedizen@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    edit-2
    10 months ago

    weird how all those tax cuts for rich people lead to them going on real estate purchasing sprees, making housing unaffordable

  • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    27
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    Bruh I can’t afford to support myself let alone more mouths to feed. Children lol

  • dhork@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    25
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    10 months ago

    I see two issues here. One is how expensive shit is. Having their own kids is the least of my kids’ concerns for their future. They are concentrating on being able to afford to leave the house after college, and start their own lives. When it is so hard for young people to start out, they’re not going to be motivated to have kids unless it’s forced upon them…

    … which brings me to my second point:

    “I want a baby boom!” [Trump] told a crowd of supporters. “You men are so lucky out there.”

    Men these days are super cringey. Half the country views Trump as the Alpha Male, a serial sexual predator. Politicians (who are predominately white and male) are all up in women’s business about their fertility. Is it any wonder why so many young women identify as non-straight these days? And why the traditional gender roles hold no appeal for them? Women have been getting the short end of the stick for millenia, and it’s only recently where they have had enough agency to not participate if they are not being treated well.

    You want women to have more babies? Stop treating them like shit, and manage the costs of everything so that having kids isn’t an economic death sentence.

  • ZeroTwo@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    10 months ago

    Can’t afford one. Jobs don’t pay enough to afford one. They’re annoying. They’re shit machines. I prefer to have fun in life and do what I like more than take care of a kid.

  • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    remember when the 40hrs week made sense? gradpa could feed a family, have the life depicted in The Simpsons. that time is long gone and everybody too scared to change anything.

  • Optional@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    10 months ago

    What a dumb, corporate, self-important headline. And limiting it to the United States is a particularly craven ploy to pump the political horse race.

    • Letstakealook@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      10 months ago

      I’ve never understood that assumption either. Having a child is the clearly selfish choice if you’re going to choose to have this binary that one of the two is selfish.

      • Zakkull@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        Right? One of the two is clearly fucking selfish and its not the people that looked at the world and themselves and said “nah cant handle that”

  • InAbsentia@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    10 months ago

    People can barely afford what is considered essential these days. Jobs are hard to find, but no one wants to work. Layoffs happening in every large business to cut costs. Profit margins and infinite growth have become congressional priority. Owning your own home is a dream becoming more and more intangible. They make these articles every so often and they’re often disconnected with the struggles of the lower and middle classes, asking a question with obvious answers. Most people without kids are a few paychecks away from bankruptcy and you want them to be excited about parenthood?